These are so darn good, they are practically JDM !!!! basically one of my top 3 irons of all time and ive played at least 100 different sets, probably even more than that......However im still in the honeymoon period and almost everything I own loses its magic after 4-6 weeks. These clubs have a thin sole and thin top line and a very small footprint with little offset and they are easier to hit than SGI irons......its like a magic unicorn.