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Launch Monitor Test Idea
« Reply #15 on: August 04, 2018, 04:19:51 PM »
Your smash factor was much lower with the Epons.  Also, your side spin with the Epons was more than twice as high as the Srixon.  It seems to me that your swing was much worse with the Epon than the Srixon.  Or, the calibration of the launch monitor changed in between tests.

The next time you do this you should use impact tape so that you can better compare the misses of one club to the other.  After each shot, find the mark on the tape and put the number within the sequence in which it occurred; the first shot gets marked "1", the second shot "2", etc.  You'll be able to better understand the numbers relative to your misses on the face and can compare the toe/center/heel/thin/etc. shots of one club to the other.
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Re: Epon 503, but what best to combo them with......?
« Reply #16 on: August 04, 2018, 06:16:47 PM »
Ok........the 503/ns pro combo is.........short! The Z745 6i beats it on the course and on an indoor LM.
Course; 193yd to flag, 503 short and in the green side bunker, 745 on the green.
LM; 503 avg 159 carry for 175 total, 745 181 carry for 196 total. The 503 spin was 4843 and the 745 was 4047, low spin for a 6i, but that's just my crappy swing.
I was very surprised.

Very interesting.   So what's the launch angle difference between them?   Is the 503 going so high that you are losing distance?

I've been rotating thru Modus 120 S 120 X and 125 S between different clubs with very similar lofts and I found that the 125S ( currently in Epon SUS316 heads)  are giving me the most distance.    I'm thinking tip stiff profile help with lower spin which gets you a few more yards.  Well in your case 22 more yards.   :) !!

Can you compare the sus316 to anything else nob?

Finally put the SUS316 in play on the course for the first time today.   Club Championship 1st day shot 77 (7 hdcp) = 70 Net
Going on to the 2nd day tomorrow against 15 other guys including a 20 hdcp who shot 85 today.  His net is 65!!  Geez.

Anyway,  I was using ProV1s today and boy the SUS316 is so soft at impact.  It's what I would consider as "Marshmallow soft"
I think it's one of the softest irons I've played.    Buchi VS200 comes close I think.    MP33 flushed will also have a similar feel.     
My Miura 99.3% S-01 Wedges compliment the SUS316 from a feel perspective too.    Love it!!
DR: Modart MA01D+R / Diamana W
FW: Modart MA01F / Diamana 'Ahina
UT: Modart MA01H / Crazy STP
IR:  Epon AF-505/SUS316 / Modus 125
WG: MG S-01 / Modus Wedge 125
PT:  Ping Vault 2.0 CRAZ-E H ( in trial mode )

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Re: Launch Monitor Test Idea
« Reply #17 on: August 05, 2018, 02:15:36 AM »
Your smash factor was much lower with the Epons.  Also, your side spin with the Epons was more than twice as high as the Srixon.  It seems to me that your swing was much worse with the Epon than the Srixon.  Or, the calibration of the launch monitor changed in between tests.

The next time you do this you should use impact tape so that you can better compare the misses of one club to the other.  After each shot, find the mark on the tape and put the number within the sequence in which it occurred; the first shot gets marked "1", the second shot "2", etc.  You'll be able to better understand the numbers relative to your misses on the face and can compare the toe/center/heel/thin/etc. shots of one club to the other.

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Re: Epon 503, but what best to combo them with......?
« Reply #18 on: August 05, 2018, 02:18:08 AM »

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Can you compare the sus316 to anything else nob?
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Finally put the SUS316 in play on the course for the first time today.   Club Championship 1st day shot 77 (7 hdcp) = 70 Net
Going on to the 2nd day tomorrow against 15 other guys including a 20 hdcp who shot 85 today.  His net is 65!!  Geez.

Anyway,  I was using ProV1s today and boy the SUS316 is so soft at impact.  It's what I would consider as "Marshmallow soft"
I think it's one of the softest irons I've played.    Buchi VS200 comes close I think.    MP33 flushed will also have a similar feel.     
My Miura 99.3% S-01 Wedges compliment the SUS316 from a feel perspective too.    Love it!!
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Ooooo I like the sound of that. Maybe keep a look out for these on the bst....like you they might compliment my Miura wedges too 😊
Driver: jBEAM Glorious 10.5* + Motore VT 7.0x, 45.5", Superstroke.
HY: Fourteen UT716 1i/3i/5i + Thump h90x, 39"-42", Superstroke.
Irons: OnOff Forged 6i - PW + Accra Tour Ti Mesh, Superstroke.
Wedges: Epon Tour 51*/57* + Accra Tour Ti Mesh, Superstroke.
Putter: Rife Barbados, Garsen.

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Re: Epon 503, but what best to combo them with......?
« Reply #19 on: August 14, 2018, 05:55:50 PM »
Out of the blue, I started to look for some driving irons that could replace my 4 iron in the SUS316 set.

Looked for 23 deg Epon 903s both DI and Hyb versions.   Could not find one that I liked and
then I came across a head only pair of AF-505 in #4 &#5 irons.   
Essentially copying what you are going for, Ian!    SUS316 are fabulous irons but forgiveness wise,  they are closer to AF-302.  4 iron in the set can be a bit intimidating.
I did not have intentions originally to replace the 5 iron but I think it might be fun to give it a go.
After reading what Harry had to say about the 505s I just could not pass it up. 
DR: Modart MA01D+R / Diamana W
FW: Modart MA01F / Diamana 'Ahina
UT: Modart MA01H / Crazy STP
IR:  Epon AF-505/SUS316 / Modus 125
WG: MG S-01 / Modus Wedge 125
PT:  Ping Vault 2.0 CRAZ-E H ( in trial mode )

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Re: Epon 503, but what best to combo them with......?
« Reply #20 on: August 15, 2018, 01:35:18 AM »
Out of the blue, I started to look for some driving irons that could replace my 4 iron in the SUS316 set.

Looked for 23 deg Epon 903s both DI and Hyb versions.   Could not find one that I liked and
then I came across a head only pair of AF-505 in #4 &#5 irons.   
Essentially copying what you are going for, Ian!    SUS316 are fabulous irons but forgiveness wise,  they are closer to AF-302.  4 iron in the set can be a bit intimidating.
I did not have intentions originally to replace the 5 iron but I think it might be fun to give it a go.
After reading what Harry had to say about the 505s I just could not pass it up.

I really like the look of the 503 at address, and I could hardly notice a 'click' when striking the ball, so I think these'll go well with the 316. Man you'll have a combo set that I would like to try. Nice one nob.

You should have asked me before you bought them though, as I'll probably be gaming the OnOff 2011 when they arrive so these (4i/5i/6i) will be up for sale.
Driver: jBEAM Glorious 10.5* + Motore VT 7.0x, 45.5", Superstroke.
HY: Fourteen UT716 1i/3i/5i + Thump h90x, 39"-42", Superstroke.
Irons: OnOff Forged 6i - PW + Accra Tour Ti Mesh, Superstroke.
Wedges: Epon Tour 51*/57* + Accra Tour Ti Mesh, Superstroke.
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Re: Epon 503, but what best to combo them with......?
« Reply #21 on: August 15, 2018, 02:21:20 AM »
I got the 505 heads. 
DR: Modart MA01D+R / Diamana W
FW: Modart MA01F / Diamana 'Ahina
UT: Modart MA01H / Crazy STP
IR:  Epon AF-505/SUS316 / Modus 125
WG: MG S-01 / Modus Wedge 125
PT:  Ping Vault 2.0 CRAZ-E H ( in trial mode )

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Re: Epon 503, but what best to combo them with......?
« Reply #22 on: August 15, 2018, 09:42:34 AM »
I got the 505 heads.

Sometimes, I can't see the woods for the trees....
Driver: jBEAM Glorious 10.5* + Motore VT 7.0x, 45.5", Superstroke.
HY: Fourteen UT716 1i/3i/5i + Thump h90x, 39"-42", Superstroke.
Irons: OnOff Forged 6i - PW + Accra Tour Ti Mesh, Superstroke.
Wedges: Epon Tour 51*/57* + Accra Tour Ti Mesh, Superstroke.
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Re: Epon 503, but what best to combo them with......?
« Reply #23 on: August 15, 2018, 11:54:39 AM »
:)   the 4i-6i 503s would be a good alternative to those struggling a bit with their long irons in a players set.  (i.e Me!! )

4i at 22deg is driving iron loft and probably as forgiving and long too. 
 
The Mizuno MP Fli Hi 22deg DI that I use now is an excellent 4 iron replacement.   Looks good, performs well and feels pretty good for a maraging steel face iron.
however,  when the main irons soft like the SUS316s,  the feel just do not match.   My hope is that the 505 being all forged carbon steel would provide even better feel off the face.


DR: Modart MA01D+R / Diamana W
FW: Modart MA01F / Diamana 'Ahina
UT: Modart MA01H / Crazy STP
IR:  Epon AF-505/SUS316 / Modus 125
WG: MG S-01 / Modus Wedge 125
PT:  Ping Vault 2.0 CRAZ-E H ( in trial mode )

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Re: Epon 503, but what best to combo them with......?
« Reply #24 on: August 18, 2018, 10:39:53 AM »
Onoff forged /503/745
Driver: jBEAM Glorious 10.5* + Motore VT 7.0x, 45.5", Superstroke.
HY: Fourteen UT716 1i/3i/5i + Thump h90x, 39"-42", Superstroke.
Irons: OnOff Forged 6i - PW + Accra Tour Ti Mesh, Superstroke.
Wedges: Epon Tour 51*/57* + Accra Tour Ti Mesh, Superstroke.
Putter: Rife Barbados, Garsen.

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Re: Epon 503, but what best to combo them with......?
« Reply #25 on: August 18, 2018, 12:00:10 PM »
Onoff/503/745 6 irons

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Driver: jBEAM Glorious 10.5* + Motore VT 7.0x, 45.5", Superstroke.
HY: Fourteen UT716 1i/3i/5i + Thump h90x, 39"-42", Superstroke.
Irons: OnOff Forged 6i - PW + Accra Tour Ti Mesh, Superstroke.
Wedges: Epon Tour 51*/57* + Accra Tour Ti Mesh, Superstroke.
Putter: Rife Barbados, Garsen.