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Orion Type S and ProSpec
« on: July 08, 2018, 01:37:36 AM »
Orion is one of my top 3 wedges alongside the Grind Studios and the Modart Suda wedges.

Iíve tried pretty much all variants of the splendid Orion wedges : Type S, Type G, Pro-Spec, raw and plated and have settled on the Type S and the Pro spec as being best for my game.  Type S or Pro spec will depend on condition.

On finish, Iím neutral to both raw and plated.  The raw feels firmer though and this is probably down to the copper underlay in the plated range.  The plated range is a dense kind of softer but its not altogether soft to begin with like the Epons or the SDJs.

The Type S as you can see features relief on the leading and trailing edges as well as on the heel and toe. For my game where I choke down a lot for approach shots, pitching and chipping, the heel and toe relief works wonders.  I rarely take full shots with wedges and almost always prefer choke down for more control both in terms of trajectory but also dispersion and spin.

The Prospec has a flatter sole profile with little relief grinding.  The leading edge at the neck al comes in a slight bit but its still a straight neck which I really prefer for wedges especially.  Size wise, both are the same.

Another difference to the Type S is bounce.  This is an 8 degree bounce and the Type S I think is maybe 12.  In soggy or more lush conditions, Iím more comfortable with the Type S and the Prospec tends to good deep.  Its probably more suited for the deep line of attack profile. I have to remember to place the ball slightly back in my stance with the Pro Spec than I normally do the Type S.

In terms of spin, youíll have no problem holding and depending on where you play spinning the ball back.  All my wedges are shafted with Shimada NW110s with the exception of 120s in my LW.  If anyone remembers the Crazy ToyosÖ feel of the plated Orions are very similar and that is a good thing.

I donít think Orion gets much air time with many here but Iíve been through so many different wedges and for me, these have remained.  Wedges are scoring clubs.. if youíre looking out for a new wedge, give this a try.  You may find yourself getting a whole set of Orion wedges.
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Re: Orion Type S and ProSpec
« Reply #1 on: July 08, 2018, 08:43:10 PM »
Good write up. Like the look of the Type S.

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Re: Orion Type S and ProSpec
« Reply #2 on: July 08, 2018, 09:08:39 PM »
Good write up. Like the look of the Type S.

Really good wedges Matt.  Try em.
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Re: Orion Type S and ProSpec
« Reply #3 on: July 09, 2018, 08:08:19 AM »
Absolutely agree. I have a Spy S 50* and it is great. On a long run I will be looking for a 56 Spy S. I have the plated version and the feel is addictive. It is not buttery, mushy soft like an Epon or Onoff forged or so. But it is very dense feeling. Just very good. Spin is very good as well and the sole grind works for me well with the additional killed leading edge.
No problems recommending it.
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Re: Orion Type S and ProSpec
« Reply #4 on: July 09, 2018, 09:23:14 AM »
Absolutely agree. I have a Spy S 50* and it is great. On a long run I will be looking for a 56 Spy S. I have the plated version and the feel is addictive. It is not buttery, mushy soft like an Epon or Onoff forged or so. But it is very dense feeling. Just very good. Spin is very good as well and the sole grind works for me well with the additional killed leading edge.
No problems recommending it.

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Re: Orion Type S and ProSpec
« Reply #5 on: May 11, 2020, 07:57:46 PM »
Rehash as I am late to the game...

Got mine in today and have them ready to go in the morning.  Crazy Black Wedge shaft and Elite A50 grips.  I'll be playing a course I know well so will be easy to play to distances to allow for a plethora of shots with these over the coming days.

My GIR is gonna suck, but hope the up/down stats improve with these.

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Re: Orion Type S and ProSpec
« Reply #6 on: May 11, 2020, 08:04:29 PM »
Enjoy..wedges have a ton of praise. Keep us updated please

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Re: Orion Type S and ProSpec
« Reply #7 on: May 11, 2020, 08:09:01 PM »
Rehash as I am late to the game...

Got mine in today and have them ready to go in the morning.  Crazy Black Wedge shaft and Elite A50 grips.  I'll be playing a course I know well so will be easy to play to distances to allow for a plethora of shots with these over the coming days.

My GIR is gonna suck, but hope the up/down stats improve with these.

Did you adjust the lie?  Going by the other thread, I think these are 63 stock which would make these too flat for you.
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Re: Orion Type S and ProSpec
« Reply #8 on: May 11, 2020, 08:13:00 PM »
Did you adjust the lie?  Going by the other thread, I think these are 63 stock which would make these too flat for you.
I will do that tomorrow.  Wanted to get out and hit them first.

They'll likely be going 67*.  Probably out of mfg spec but c'est la vie.

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Re: Orion Type S and ProSpec
« Reply #9 on: May 12, 2020, 03:01:47 PM »
Played them today prior to bending.  On shots with a more full swing I was able to cope with the lie angles and had some quality shots.  However, anything that resembled a chip or bump and run was a miserable failure.

They are now bent more upright, 66.75*.  From mfg they were all at 64* lie angle.

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Re: Orion Type S and ProSpec
« Reply #10 on: May 12, 2020, 11:22:52 PM »
Usually itís the opposite for me

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Re: Orion Type S and ProSpec
« Reply #11 on: May 13, 2020, 05:29:16 AM »
Usually itís the opposite for me
Could have just been a shitty short game day.

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Re: Orion Type S and ProSpec
« Reply #12 on: May 17, 2020, 09:59:30 AM »
Have a couple more rounds with the Orion/CBW combo.  It is a very satisfying club.  Am getting ~130yds with the 50* down to 100yds from the 58*.  So on full swings it is fairly long, very arching trajectory and has good stopping spin.

Would say the feeling of the ball off the face of the club is on the softer side of dense, while the Zodia wedges are on the crisper side of dense.

Still getting used to opening up and swing percentage to distances.  But on the chips and bum and runs am getting pretty comfortable with distance control.


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Re: Orion Type S and ProSpec
« Reply #13 on: May 17, 2020, 11:02:44 AM »
Good to hear these are working out.  I play my Orions with the GTD irons.
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Re: Orion Type S and ProSpec
« Reply #14 on: May 25, 2020, 08:56:08 AM »
Damn these feel good.  Spin is definitely solid too.

Do their irons have the same feeling?