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E1 Swing weight on irons...
« on: August 23, 2018, 02:53:45 PM »
So a friend of mine as been for a fitting today and as told me he’s having his irons made heavy, E1 SW.

Apparently Callaway allow you to order heavier heads??

Why would you want E1 SW with irons??
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Re: E1 Swing weight on irons...
« Reply #1 on: August 23, 2018, 03:34:40 PM »
One of the most consistent swingers in golf, check out his swing weight at the end of the link:
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Last year I had a Callaway MD3 with a Crazy CBi-02 shaft with a SW of E1. Awesome club. Felt like I was swinging a metronome. In fact I think I should go heavier now. Mine are at D4/D5 presently.
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Re: E1 Swing weight on irons...
« Reply #2 on: August 23, 2018, 07:30:02 PM »
Some fitters test for MOI or swingweight.  You hit a club with different swingweights--the fitter probably uses lead tape to adjust the SW--and the fitter determines the best SW or MOI value by measuring dispersion if they have a launch monitor or if they don't have a launch monitor, they look at impact location on the clubface using impact tape.

Maybe your friend did this and the fitter determined that dispersion was minimized at a SW of E1?
« Last Edit: August 23, 2018, 07:31:42 PM by db2 »

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Re: E1 Swing weight on irons...
« Reply #3 on: August 23, 2018, 09:18:31 PM »
I like heavy sw clubs, can get into a rhythm, more consistent...a little shorter and at my advanced state of physical decline, get tired faster but when I was younger, had a few years of super consistent golf with d4 through the set...
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Re: E1 Swing weight on irons...
« Reply #4 on: August 25, 2018, 12:55:17 PM »
I think it makes sense for a wedge. Not sure I’d want E1 in a 4 or 5 iron.
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Re: E1 Swing weight on irons...
« Reply #5 on: August 25, 2018, 10:42:10 PM »
I could write a novel on this one, including discussing the shortcomings of fitting to swing weight if you don’t understand how a golf club works,  but I’ll try to keep it short.
Firstly, it doesn’t take much to get into the E’s on the swingweight scale. For example, If you’re building clubs with Dynamic Gold Shafts, average weight heads and std weight grips, if the length gets anything more than a 1/2 inch over std, you’ll be in the high Ds for sure, if not in the low E’s.
With regard to why you want heavy clubs, for a couple of reasons, I am of the firm belief that a player should play the heaviest and stiffest irons that they can realistically “manage” (ie still make the launch the ball high enough and with enough spin to make if fly reason distances).
Firstly, irons should be made to be tools of precision as a requirement ahead of building them for max distance and stiffer, heavier irons will encourage a straighter flight and Tighter shot dispersion.
Secondly, heavier clubs will generally promote a better body action in a person’s swing to generate speed, vice flailing arms to make club head speed.

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Re: E1 Swing weight on irons...
« Reply #6 on: August 27, 2018, 02:53:54 AM »
I could write a novel on this one, including discussing the shortcomings of fitting to swing weight if you don’t understand how a golf club works,  but I’ll try to keep it short.
Firstly, it doesn’t take much to get into the E’s on the swingweight scale. For example, If you’re building clubs with Dynamic Gold Shafts, average weight heads and std weight grips, if the length gets anything more than a 1/2 inch over std, you’ll be in the high Ds for sure, if not in the low E’s.
With regard to why you want heavy clubs, for a couple of reasons, I am of the firm belief that a player should play the heaviest and stiffest irons that they can realistically “manage” (ie still make the launch the ball high enough and with enough spin to make if fly reason distances).
Firstly, irons should be made to be tools of precision as a requirement ahead of building them for max distance and stiffer, heavier irons will encourage a straighter flight and Tighter shot dispersion.
Secondly, heavier clubs will generally promote a better body action in a person’s swing to generate speed, vice flailing arms to make club head speed.

Thanks... sounds interesting
I’ve always played 1/2 inch longer clubs and love DG s300’s
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Re: E1 Swing weight on irons...
« Reply #7 on: September 06, 2018, 06:50:30 AM »
"Firstly, irons should be made to be tools of precision as a requirement ahead of building them for max distance and stiffer, heavier irons will encourage a straighter flight and Tighter shot dispersion.
Secondly, heavier clubs will generally promote a better body action in a person’s swing to generate speed, vice flailing arms to make club head speed."

Totally agree! --- (Better body action, and arms...) I like 3i D1.5 then every club heavier by 0.5 sw where wedge is D6ish.  I've tried D8 and is too heavy for me.  However, I also think OEMs should increase SW to help beginners, or high handicappers to help feel where the head is in the swing.- thus higher SW.