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Title: 505 first impressions...getting a feel for these...full review.
Post by: freehb on July 10, 2018, 09:25:52 PM
These arrived finally. 

Epon 505 4-P with Roddio i10 stiff ss1x, 38&1/8" 5i. 

I took the wrapper off the 9i and headed to the range.  Will do a review as I use them more but here are my first impressions:

Feel:  hard to describe, somewhere between the 303 and 503.  Most of the shots I hit were with range rocks but a few zstars on the course felt really good, not the feel of a 303 or 302 but much closer than the 503/703/705.  It's more of a dull, thuddy feeling, I liked it especially in relation to the other epon pocket cavities...I would compare it to the non pocket cavity short irons in the rf551s...just different.  I you're looking for the feel of the 303, you're not going to get it but for the performance it feels really good.  I could kinda feel where impact with the face was.  These would probably feel better with Steele shafts.

Looks:  outstanding, it's shorter heel to toe but chunkier...looks really good over the ball, top line is noticibly thinner and offset is noticeably less than the 303.

Trajectory:  I was launching this higher than my 705 9i.  Likely the loft differential but could be the swing I had.

Distence/forgiveness:  despite smaller size it played more like the 703, no problem, plenty forgiving for the 12+ hcap crowd.  Can't really conclude on distence but appeared to be real good, as long loft per loft as the 705.

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Post by: wmclarenf1 on July 10, 2018, 10:28:37 PM
Oh you epon slut  ;D... Looking good H!
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Post by: MBBG on July 10, 2018, 11:58:04 PM
More pics!!!!
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Post by: Sanader on July 11, 2018, 01:33:00 AM
Really like what Iím seeing and reading
If I might add a wish a pic at address in front of ball would be very much appreciated

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Post by: nobwas on July 11, 2018, 02:45:05 PM
Recent feedback on Japanese blogs also indicate the distance performance quite astonishing with these 505s. 
Some users are reporting problems with distance gap between their 505 PW and their other wedges.
AW is supposed to come out later in the year so that should help.   


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Post by: ian-500 on July 11, 2018, 04:10:01 PM
For those of you who are struggling with distance.......work out and get stronger, or stretch and get more flexible. One or both will add distance. Clubs can only do so much.
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Post by: freehb on July 11, 2018, 08:30:02 PM
Good point Ian!

Wife and kids gone, came home and headed straight to the range with beers, smokes and Seamus..and the 4i.

I'm in love!  With that 4i...so good, lovely strong trajectory...reminded me of the 303 when well struck.  Feel is a little better in the long irons and I really enjoyed striking the ball with this club.

Light and tight is the way to go with this head...or maybe it's just me and my complete lack of interest in doing anything physical outside of playing or practicing...C, you should try those DGL's in these, I think those would be good...I'm thinking i9 hard stepped, straight in maybe even bangvoo stiff hard stepped, the head is very forgiving yet rewards an aggressive strike.  Epon put some thinking into this head, the way the screws and insert work together is original and ingenious.  Interesting feel, don't expect the deep, solid feel of the 303 but expect better than any of the pocket cavities epon has made.

Could be my swing but the 9i was launching a bit high...

Love the look at address (in relation to the forgiveness)....reminds me a bit of the kuro..
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Post by: nobwas on July 12, 2018, 12:09:05 AM
For those of you who are struggling with distance.......work out and get stronger, or stretch and get more flexible. One or both will add distance. Clubs can only do so much.

Very timely comment as I just started going to the gym again this week but not for strength or flexibility but to get fit and help reduce blood pressure. HaHa!!   Iíll probably get some strength and flex back with regular workouts as a bonus.   50yr old body needs significant maintenance!!
But what I meant was some early adopters of AF 505 in Japan are complaining that it goes too long and messing up their distance gaps with their wedges.   
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Post by: Shacco on July 12, 2018, 03:49:53 AM
I don't get it it anyways when people are looking for distance in irons. It's all about the right gaping. I don't think that distance in irons come from ball speed loft for loft. It's jacked up lofts and/or reduced spin which has an effect on playability imo. I like the looks of these but don't really like reading that people are reporting that these are long. Most likely they are spinning less.
Interested to hear more feedback.
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Post by: Sanader on July 12, 2018, 05:08:42 AM
Free thank you for the pics!

Kuro was also what came to my mind.
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Post by: freehb on July 12, 2018, 09:29:04 AM
Shannon, I agree, drives me nuts when my playing parter constantly marvels at hitting his 8i with 6i loft 155...I'm more accurate these days with a long iron than a ute so I like a little jacked loft so I can play an iron in from 180...have never had problems with distence gaps but I rarely make a full swing from 100 in...either something low and spinny or high and soft..

As far as distence goes, I'm coming from the 705 and the 505s are closer to traditional lofts.

I'll be interested to see how these hold greens, course is firm right now so should get a good sense this weekend...

I never know until I've played a few rounds with a club, hitting balls on the range doesn't translate to play...
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Post by: freehb on July 12, 2018, 10:20:56 PM
Sent 3 bags up with my wife to the highlands for my brothers in law...am dangerously low on clubs...could only make 3 full sets right now.

This is living!  Wife and both kids are gone, just Seamus and I...and the bar maids...

Won the Thursday game...  Going with the 505s for the Friday game...

If mrs free saw this place right now she would go on tilt...living the high life!
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Post by: MBBG on July 12, 2018, 11:08:22 PM
By god thatís the way to do it free. And a good day to you, sir!
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Post by: ian-500 on July 13, 2018, 02:02:00 AM
That...looks....beautiful. Enjoy it Harry.
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Post by: DaleUK on July 13, 2018, 03:43:28 AM
H... your living the Dream baby... living the dream
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Post by: nobwas on July 13, 2018, 01:24:16 PM
My bedroom needs to be like that... full of golf stuff!    Good Job!!
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Post by: freehb on July 13, 2018, 05:05:14 PM
Thanks fellas, I don't think I could appreciate a weekend like this if I didn't have the wife and kids...

Learned something last night...apparently it's inappropriate to invite several young female club bar maids back to your house when they serve you with your wife and kids regularly...huh...

Anyway, I took a mental health day from work, had a lesson, played the Friday game...went septuple threat today: beer, whisky, rhoudylax, gummies, muscle relaxers, cigars, couple other things...could have had a decent round, was 1 over through 7 until the gummies kicked in...

The thought occurred to me that I could do anything I want tonight...strippers, college parties...cougar bar out by the beach...combing yaj with Seamus in the tub all night...night golf...Living the dream Dale...living the dream...at least until Monday...yeah Monday may not be very fun...
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Post by: wmclarenf1 on July 13, 2018, 08:39:48 PM
Ha! Fantastic H!
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Post by: mauvanilla on July 15, 2018, 06:21:20 AM
That Kinosho bag translates very well your RockNRoll weekend!
Title: Re: 505 first impressions...getting a feel for these...
Post by: freehb on July 17, 2018, 09:43:41 PM
Some more thoughts on these.  Played 2 rounds with them this weekend and some range time tonight with my favorite son...

I don't think the screws are for weight...they hold the head and insert together...sort of a callaway jail break concept applied to an iron...whatever the intent, it works...these feel really good...miles better than the 705 and significantly better than 503 or 703 (which I thought felt great for what it is).  It's really stable and you know when you've middled it and when you haven't and even when you're close...

These are ball striking irons, there have been lots of comments to the contrary but I love the way they look over the ball...mind you though I'm coming from the 705...they definitely look more player GI than 503.

All that said, if you have a very high swing speed you'd have to go X stiff and high kick point with the shafts to control trajectory....these are not made for the high speed player...

They are working well for me though...I hit the 7 about 150 at sea level for reference.  With heavier, stiffer shafts i10 stiff ss1x compared to bangvoo prem stiff ss1x.  I hit these 1/3 to 1/2 a club shorter than the 705 so with the 1.5-2.5* loft diff, I imagine the 505 is even hotter than the 705.

I know I said "light and tight" in a previous post but I'm getting tighter dispersion and zero hot shots wth the 505 and I imagine it's due to the heavier shafts...

Was making good contact on Sunday and hitting nice tight baby draws or straight shots but also quite a few small blocks...block or double cross with the driver have been my misses of late but the 505 was very helpful, not much distence loss wi the block and all wanted to draw...right front or right side pin high a lot...

Longer distence coming in on par 5s because I pulled 4i for my second shot...just love hitting that club.  It's got an i9 stiff straight in and I'm just real comfortable putting it out there 185/190...not as successful with it on the long par 3s though, I don't like stepping on it....not sure it's helping my scores though, I was always in play and a lot closer with 5 wood on the par 5s...not a single birdie on the par 5s but a couple on the mid length par 4s...

Anyway, I'm taking these to the highlands tomorrow for more honeymoon...
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Post by: db2 on July 18, 2018, 10:48:43 PM
What happened to the 155?
Title: Re: 505 first impressions...getting a feel for these...
Post by: freehb on July 19, 2018, 10:43:39 AM
155 will be back as my gamer here shortly, she's getting a new shaft...free's gonna try a 60g x flex...the basi alpha is a perfect match for this head feel wise and while for me, I've been hitting long (250-260 on good strikes), some track man time revealed an average spin of 3200ish...the substance of it is my swing, resulting in an ave. -5* descending attack angle which creates a challenge getting the 12/13* launch angle I would like but no matter how I slice and dice it I'm leaving distence on the table and sometimes you need to force a swing change through an equipment change...

Gotta get my game tight to beat Ian in the clubhouse Ryder cup...he's a beast, slamming it out there 340+...
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Post by: ian-500 on July 19, 2018, 11:22:41 AM
155 will be back as my gamer here shortly, she's getting a new shaft...free's gonna try a 60g x flex...the basi alpha is a perfect match for this head feel wise and while for me, I've been hitting long (250-260 on good strikes), some track man time revealed an average spin of 3200ish...the substance of it is my swing, resulting in an ave. -5* descending attack angle which creates a challenge getting the 12/13* launch angle I would like but no matter how I slice and dice it I'm leaving distence on the table and sometimes you need to force a swing change through an equipment change...

Gotta get my game tight to beat Ian in the clubhouse Ryder cup...he's a beast, slamming it out there 340+...

Yay, x flex baby! Get fit by chasing your dog around your garden. You'll be swinging 110mph+ in no time, and that will bring you into the 300yd club.....
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Post by: freehb on July 19, 2018, 11:50:35 AM
Haha, thx for the encouragement Ian, long way to go to even get close to your league...

As I've gotten longer I'm starting to face an identity crisis...my game has been clutch up and downs and mentally break the big hitters for so long I haven't felt like myself on the course lately and my up/down % inside 30 yards has dropped from mid40ies to high 20s despite improved putting...I'm making a lot more birdies than I used to though but even though my handicap has dropped I'm just not as confident...not "knowing without a shadow of doubt" that I'm getting this ball up-n-down these days...perhaps just lack of short game practice and opportunity during play....

Hitting the ball harder s very satisfying but I'm not sure it's made my overall game more clutch when the $/glory is on the line...

Hope I get a test here soon, CLUBHOUSE RYDER CUP BABY!  Ian, get a team together and let's start planning...I know the intls on this board want in as well....
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Post by: ian-500 on July 19, 2018, 12:25:47 PM
Would love to captain, but maybe not for 6 to 12 months. As a family we definitely want to visit the states.
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Post by: freehb on July 19, 2018, 08:11:55 PM
I know you're not a Jesus guy so no disrespect but for what it's worth Mrs I'm has been in my prayers...if all works out would lve to get u, Dale, db2, 100100, Shannon, Jay and th other euros on us soil...then again I'd rather get a team to my ancestral lands (Scotland/Englad mostly)...the core group at my club is planning a trip to Scotland next year so perhaps I'll meet you fellas for a round or three....
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Post by: ian-500 on July 20, 2018, 01:28:41 AM
I know you're not a Jesus guy so no disrespect but for what it's worth Mrs I'm has been in my prayers...if all works out would lve to get u, Dale, db2, 100100, Shannon, Jay and th other euros on us soil...then again I'd rather get a team to my ancestral lands (Scotland/Englad mostly)...the core group at my club is planning a trip to Scotland next year so perhaps I'll meet you fellas for a round or three....

Thanks Harry. Come to think of it, I've never played in Scotland.........
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Post by: DaleUK on July 20, 2018, 02:08:23 AM
I know you're not a Jesus guy so no disrespect but for what it's worth Mrs I'm has been in my prayers...if all works out would lve to get u, Dale, db2, 100100, Shannon, Jay and th other euros on us soil...then again I'd rather get a team to my ancestral lands (Scotland/Englad mostly)...the core group at my club is planning a trip to Scotland next year so perhaps I'll meet you fellas for a round or three....

H..

Send me an invite and Iíll be there.... itís been known for me to Travel
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Post by: freehb on July 20, 2018, 05:31:37 PM
Happy to volunteer my place...Orlando is pretty central for flying in...a lot of the intls on this board pass through there...

I'm 2 hours northeast of downtown Orland...good golf along the way as well, would propose the following Venues for a sick American Florida golf trip starting in Orlando:
Stream song resort
Bay hill
Hammock dunes
World golf village
Sawgrass country club
TPC sawgrass
Mash Landing club
San Jose country club

Plenty of beastie courses...even for beasts like u and Ian...

Winter November through February is a good time to come...it's nice and cool here, courses are pretty firm...mark and victor have mentioned September possibly, that would be a great time, could prob get a Chicago contingent...if you guys listen to a redonkulouse pitch at Wgv you can get $50 lodging and a free round up there...happy to host some intls at my place just up the road as well, have a half dozen guest passes if people r interested in local public access golf with the best greens in north Florida...I can get us on at sawgrass at a reasonable rate as well as some local privates...the stay and play at bay hill is phenomenal...not sure I can help anyone at streamsong...even the locals are paying full bill there...
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Post by: Boycer11 on August 01, 2018, 07:18:12 AM
There are several sets up on buyee.com for good prices already. Are these fakes?
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Post by: nobwas on August 01, 2018, 02:09:12 PM
Chances are that they might be...  but these irons had so much pre-sales hype I bet a bunch of people rushed into ordering without really knowing what to expect.
Just like we have a bunch of club ho's here in the US, there are equally or even more club hos who just buy and try pretty much everything that comes out.
So much easier for them to do that when they can just go to a local shop to order their JDM stuff ( unlike us here in the US )
As any manufacturer would tell you.  Beware of fakes.   If you are not willing to take the chance,  then you need to order from an authorized retailer.
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Post by: freehb on August 01, 2018, 09:23:22 PM
If it's a respectable shop it's probably legit.  Nobs is correct IMO  in his thoughts on the market for these...I usually get whatever epon is offering and then shuffle shafts till i think they're as good as they're gonna get...

More thoughts on these:

I enjoy playing these more than the 705.  I'd say they were more demanding but they're not  demanding...

I can go at at the ball with these and even when I yank it down from the top they go ok...a fun iron to hit...

I haven't had any problems with distence control.  Perhaps it's the heavier shafts but these seem to be as close to the missing link as I've found.  I think more forgiving than the 503 bit look so much better over the ball...503 and 551 both stayed in the bag for a long time, this one will likely stay longer.

If you find them on yaj from a legit seller or shop, they're worth a go...def the best 500 series iron they've made all around.
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Post by: Boycer11 on August 01, 2018, 09:42:47 PM
Ok. I will keep my eye out. They are $375 per head here in the US so even $1400 for 5-pw seems like a great deal.

Bought both the ping i500 and i210 and dont think the beat my 705/503 combo and I love ping.
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Post by: freehb on August 02, 2018, 10:30:37 PM
Ping hasn't interested me since the BeCu ping eye...
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Post by: Boycer11 on August 03, 2018, 11:09:44 AM
Yep sold them already. Guess I will keep my epon combo for a bit.

How is the 505 5-7 irons compare to the 705 in forgiveness?
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Post by: nobwas on August 03, 2018, 02:11:44 PM
Yep sold them already. Guess I will keep my epon combo for a bit.

How is the 505 5-7 irons compare to the 705 in forgiveness?

i210 were just released on 7/31 weren't they?    Dang, you are worse than me!!  No Just kidding, dude!!
Life is too short.. gotta move on to new things quickly!
Good luck with your Epon search!


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Post by: freehb on August 03, 2018, 05:28:29 PM
Boycer, I can't stress the importance of playing a full set of the same epon model enough...it's akin to mixing caviar with gourmet chilli cheese fries...you can do it and it may taste fine but you lose the singular perfection...it's a fung shwie...er...Shinto...er...domo...

The 505s are plenty forgiving, honestly, after playing the 705 for almost 2 seasons and the 703 for 2 seasons before that, 503 for 2 seasons before that...I'm so happy to be looking down at something playerish!  Playerish looking but sgi level performance...I seem to strike the ball more consistently in the center of the face with a mid sized iron...the 705 is great, 703 was great...they got me through some tough times whe my only weapon was the best short game at the club...it was a mental crutch thing...now my mind is free, I'm hitting shots with character...today I hit a 6i 168 yards into the wind, all carry over the largest retention pond/lake on the course...right over the pin, hit, kicked forward 5 feet and brakes...I looked at my playing partners and said "that's kinda lasery...
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Post by: freehb on August 03, 2018, 05:31:50 PM
Sorry, brown water and a half dozen other things today...for me the 505 is almost as forgiving overall and more forgiving on thinish contact compared to the 705...
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Post by: Boycer11 on August 03, 2018, 06:17:43 PM
Sorry, brown water and a half dozen other things today...for me the 505 is almost as forgiving overall and more forgiving on thinish contact compared to the 705...

That's ok. I do understand. I have been there before.

Long irons are my struggle. I dont mind the combo set at all really. I had a 5 hybrid but will be taking it out for the 705 5 iron tomorrow.
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Post by: freehb on August 04, 2018, 01:36:34 PM
I'm not saying the combo set/lofty thingy hybrids won't help your game...that would make me a Hippocrite...

I've gotten to a point in the evolution of my game where I just don't care to play that punchy swing candy baby kinda golf anymore...I like hitting manly money shots...to me, a pure 4i from 190 with the money on the line is miles more fulfilling than a 24* hybrid that bounces in front and rolls up pin high....the long iron triggers every part of my game...I've broken 80 almost 50 times this year and it all started happening once I took the high lofted Utes out and replaced with long irons...I used to hit it like a bitch...no doubt but now I'm a man....
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Post by: DaleUK on August 05, 2018, 09:47:22 AM
Iím soooo tempted over these
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Post by: ian-500 on August 05, 2018, 10:12:08 AM
Iím soooo tempted over these

You know it makes sense 😏
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Post by: DaleUK on August 05, 2018, 10:27:53 AM
Just wondering if these are clicky with the undercut
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Post by: DaleUK on August 05, 2018, 11:44:43 AM
Itís either them or Titleist CBís
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Post by: Boycer11 on August 05, 2018, 01:32:14 PM
Yep sold them already. Guess I will keep my epon combo for a bit.

How is the 505 5-7 irons compare to the 705 in forgiveness?

i210 were just released on 7/31 weren't they?    Dang, you are worse than me!!  No Just kidding, dude!!
Life is too short.. gotta move on to new things quickly!
Good luck with your Epon search!

The i210 were a lot shorter even with the power spec loft. Flew to high and probably spun to much. Should have ordered them with s300.
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Post by: Boycer11 on August 05, 2018, 02:09:04 PM
I'm not saying the combo set/lofty thingy hybrids won't help your game...that would make me a Hippocrite...

I've gotten to a point in the evolution of my game where I just don't care to play that punchy swing candy baby kinda golf anymore...I like hitting manly money shots...to me, a pure 4i from 190 with the money on the line is miles more fulfilling than a 24* hybrid that bounces in front and rolls up pin high....the long iron triggers every part of my game...I've broken 80 almost 50 times this year and it all started happening once I took the high lofted Utes out and replaced with long irons...I used to hit it like a bitch...no doubt but now I'm a man....

I bounce and roll my 5 iron up on the green. Its probably all mental. I just dont hit them that much or need to at he course I play. Usually it is driver wedge. Thus I'm usually in the 70s.

At top golf but not playing. Will be going to the pga championship most of the week though.
Title: Re: 505 first impressions...getting a feel for these...full review.
Post by: freehb on August 24, 2018, 08:08:01 PM
How was the PGA brah?

More on these...

505 are definitely my gamers...favorite shaft is goi g I. These, muziik bangvo premium stiff, straight in...no soft stepping this time...light and tight...

Really loving my bag now, 155 is back soon with basi alpha 60X...replacing spoon and cleek with baffy/Waccine compo 70s and an extra wedge...

505 is great.  We'll see with same shaft, anticipate hitting 1/3 club shorter than 703...185-190 yard 4i's are super fun.

This is an epon classic!  Really solid head...I predict will be a cult classic...long, forgiving, looks good feels good...what's not to like?
Title: Re: 505 first impressions...getting a feel for these...full review.
Post by: ian-500 on August 25, 2018, 02:23:12 AM
Er....the looks of 'em.  :o

What happened to the Roddio i-10' s?
Title: Re: 505 first impressions...getting a feel for these...full review.
Post by: nobwas on August 25, 2018, 06:20:48 PM
I had a round today where I had 3 opportunities to hit the AF-505 4 & 5 irons. 
First one Par 3 180 yards to elevated greens ( more like a 190 - 195 yard shot )  Pulled the 4 iron.  Flushed it.  Nice draw coming back to the pin.  got to the green to see that the ball landed 5 ft in front of the pin and passed the pin by 17 ft 9 in .       ended up with a par.   Second one,   Par 5 hit a pretty good drive and I had 190 yards to the pin.   Pulled my 5 iron got it on the green 50ft putt left 3 putted for a par.  :(     3rd time.    Par 5  another pretty good drive with 214 left to the pin.   4i  could not quite make it to the green but on the front fringe,  a chip 2 put for a par.
These 505 irons are no doubt awesome.    They are a good cross between a GI forgiveness and players cavity distance wise it falls right in between the two.   Feel is a touch lighter felling at impact compared to a more traditional players cavity back,  but much better than your typical GI with a springy maraging steel face.   
I'm really impressed with how well these 505s are!!!     
Title: Re: 505 first impressions...getting a feel for these...full review.
Post by: freehb on August 25, 2018, 08:11:05 PM
Er....the looks of 'em.  :o

What happened to the Roddio i-10' s?

I need a little more help with distence than I was getting with the i10s.  I kinda got used to the lighter shaft (played bangvoo in my 705 set for a season and a half)...at first I really liked the i10s...had been really swinging well and the 705 was too long...wasn't sure whether my 8i was going 140 or 160...then, swing kinda left me and I started hitting 8i 130-140 with the i10 and I really missed pulling 8i for 140-145 yard shots or 5i for 175-180 yard shots...the bangvoos were soft stepped in my 705s so I'm thinking the stiff straight in with a smaller, one piece forged heads will give me the distence I want and being a little tighter, better dispersion when I'm turning through the ball real good...don't think I'll have them by the club championship though but that's ok...I'm usually a qtr to 3/4 club longer in events than I am in a casual round...

Ian brah, all epon clubs look better in the flesh...505 looks so much better over the ball than 503...as nobsy says, feel is not quite 302 but way better than 503...also noticibly thinner top line and less offset.  Some guys say they can see the pocket cavity at address...I haven't been for using on it but I honestly can't see it...

These are really really good...I know I say that about every new model (except 502) but I mean it more so for these than all the others...seriously...

Title: Re: 505 first impressions...getting a feel for these...full review.
Post by: Boycer11 on August 26, 2018, 01:46:29 PM
How was the PGA brah?

More on these...

505 are definitely my gamers...favorite shaft is goi g I. These, muziik bangvo premium stiff, straight in...no soft stepping this time...light and tight...

Really loving my bag now, 155 is back soon with basi alpha 60X...replacing spoon and cleek with baffy/Waccine compo 70s and an extra wedge...

505 is great.  We'll see with same shaft, anticipate hitting 1/3 club shorter than 703...185-190 yard 4i's are super fun.

This is an epon classic!  Really solid head...I predict will be a cult classic...long, forgiving, looks good feels good...what's not to like?

It was a long week. I went every day for 9-10 hours a day. Loved the 18th hole seats on Sunday. Got to see a tiger birdie and fist pump up close. The place went crazy.

My epons are awesome. It will be hard to replace them. Wish I could try the 505 1st. The new mizuno jpx might be tempting also.