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General Category => Japanese Golf Gear => Topic started by: freehb on July 10, 2018, 09:25:52 PM

Title: 505 first impressions...
Post by: freehb on July 10, 2018, 09:25:52 PM
These arrived finally. 

Epon 505 4-P with Roddio i10 stiff ss1x, 38&1/8" 5i. 

I took the wrapper off the 9i and headed to the range.  Will do a review as I use them more but here are my first impressions:

Feel:  hard to describe, somewhere between the 303 and 503.  Most of the shots I hit were with range rocks but a few zstars on the course felt really good, not the feel of a 303 or 302 but much closer than the 503/703/705.  It's more of a dull, thuddy feeling, I liked it especially in relation to the other epon pocket cavities...I would compare it to the non pocket cavity short irons in the rf551s...just different.  I you're looking for the feel of the 303, you're not going to get it but for the performance it feels really good.  I could kinda feel where impact with the face was.  These would probably feel better with Steele shafts.

Looks:  outstanding, it's shorter heel to toe but chunkier...looks really good over the ball, top line is noticibly thinner and offset is noticeably less than the 303.

Trajectory:  I was launching this higher than my 705 9i.  Likely the loft differential but could be the swing I had.

Distence/forgiveness:  despite smaller size it played more like the 703, no problem, plenty forgiving for the 12+ hcap crowd.  Can't really conclude on distence but appeared to be real good, as long loft per loft as the 705.

Title: Re: 505 first impressions...
Post by: wmclarenf1 on July 10, 2018, 10:28:37 PM
Oh you epon slut  ;D... Looking good H!
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Post by: MBBG on July 10, 2018, 11:58:04 PM
More pics!!!!
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Post by: Sanader on July 11, 2018, 01:33:00 AM
Really like what Iím seeing and reading
If I might add a wish a pic at address in front of ball would be very much appreciated

Title: Re: 505 first impressions...
Post by: nobwas on July 11, 2018, 02:45:05 PM
Recent feedback on Japanese blogs also indicate the distance performance quite astonishing with these 505s. 
Some users are reporting problems with distance gap between their 505 PW and their other wedges.
AW is supposed to come out later in the year so that should help.   


Title: Re: 505 first impressions...
Post by: ian-500 on July 11, 2018, 04:10:01 PM
For those of you who are struggling with distance.......work out and get stronger, or stretch and get more flexible. One or both will add distance. Clubs can only do so much.
Title: Re: 505 first impressions...
Post by: freehb on July 11, 2018, 08:30:02 PM
Good point Ian!

Wife and kids gone, came home and headed straight to the range with beers, smokes and Seamus..and the 4i.

I'm in love!  With that 4i...so good, lovely strong trajectory...reminded me of the 303 when well struck.  Feel is a little better in the long irons and I really enjoyed striking the ball with this club.

Light and tight is the way to go with this head...or maybe it's just me and my complete lack of interest in doing anything physical outside of playing or practicing...C, you should try those DGL's in these, I think those would be good...I'm thinking i9 hard stepped, straight in maybe even bangvoo stiff hard stepped, the head is very forgiving yet rewards an aggressive strike.  Epon put some thinking into this head, the way the screws and insert work together is original and ingenious.  Interesting feel, don't expect the deep, solid feel of the 303 but expect better than any of the pocket cavities epon has made.

Could be my swing but the 9i was launching a bit high...

Love the look at address (in relation to the forgiveness)....reminds me a bit of the kuro..
Title: Re: 505 first impressions...
Post by: nobwas on July 12, 2018, 12:09:05 AM
For those of you who are struggling with distance.......work out and get stronger, or stretch and get more flexible. One or both will add distance. Clubs can only do so much.

Very timely comment as I just started going to the gym again this week but not for strength or flexibility but to get fit and help reduce blood pressure. HaHa!!   Iíll probably get some strength and flex back with regular workouts as a bonus.   50yr old body needs significant maintenance!!
But what I meant was some early adopters of AF 505 in Japan are complaining that it goes too long and messing up their distance gaps with their wedges.   
Title: Re: 505 first impressions...
Post by: Shacco on July 12, 2018, 03:49:53 AM
I don't get it it anyways when people are looking for distance in irons. It's all about the right gaping. I don't think that distance in irons come from ball speed loft for loft. It's jacked up lofts and/or reduced spin which has an effect on playability imo. I like the looks of these but don't really like reading that people are reporting that these are long. Most likely they are spinning less.
Interested to hear more feedback.
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Post by: Sanader on July 12, 2018, 05:08:42 AM
Free thank you for the pics!

Kuro was also what came to my mind.
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Post by: freehb on July 12, 2018, 09:29:04 AM
Shannon, I agree, drives me nuts when my playing parter constantly marvels at hitting his 8i with 6i loft 155...I'm more accurate these days with a long iron than a ute so I like a little jacked loft so I can play an iron in from 180...have never had problems with distence gaps but I rarely make a full swing from 100 in...either something low and spinny or high and soft..

As far as distence goes, I'm coming from the 705 and the 505s are closer to traditional lofts.

I'll be interested to see how these hold greens, course is firm right now so should get a good sense this weekend...

I never know until I've played a few rounds with a club, hitting balls on the range doesn't translate to play...
Title: Re: 505 first impressions...
Post by: freehb on July 12, 2018, 10:20:56 PM
Sent 3 bags up with my wife to the highlands for my brothers in law...am dangerously low on clubs...could only make 3 full sets right now.

This is living!  Wife and both kids are gone, just Seamus and I...and the bar maids...

Won the Thursday game...  Going with the 505s for the Friday game...

If mrs free saw this place right now she would go on tilt...living the high life!
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Post by: MBBG on July 12, 2018, 11:08:22 PM
By god thatís the way to do it free. And a good day to you, sir!
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Post by: ian-500 on July 13, 2018, 02:02:00 AM
That...looks....beautiful. Enjoy it Harry.
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Post by: DaleUK on July 13, 2018, 03:43:28 AM
H... your living the Dream baby... living the dream
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Post by: nobwas on July 13, 2018, 01:24:16 PM
My bedroom needs to be like that... full of golf stuff!    Good Job!!
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Post by: freehb on July 13, 2018, 05:05:14 PM
Thanks fellas, I don't think I could appreciate a weekend like this if I didn't have the wife and kids...

Learned something last night...apparently it's inappropriate to invite several young female club bar maids back to your house when they serve you with your wife and kids regularly...huh...

Anyway, I took a mental health day from work, had a lesson, played the Friday game...went septuple threat today: beer, whisky, rhoudylax, gummies, muscle relaxers, cigars, couple other things...could have had a decent round, was 1 over through 7 until the gummies kicked in...

The thought occurred to me that I could do anything I want tonight...strippers, college parties...cougar bar out by the beach...combing yaj with Seamus in the tub all night...night golf...Living the dream Dale...living the dream...at least until Monday...yeah Monday may not be very fun...
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Post by: wmclarenf1 on July 13, 2018, 08:39:48 PM
Ha! Fantastic H!
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Post by: mauvanilla on July 15, 2018, 06:21:20 AM
That Kinosho bag translates very well your RockNRoll weekend!