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Title: Its All About The Base July 2018
Post by: wmclarenf1 on July 07, 2018, 05:54:00 AM
Taking on DB2ís example to infuse life back to this forum, I thought  Iíd do an All About The Base Update.

Since the last AATB Update in August 2015, the only remaining driver is the Grand Prix One Minute.  Klingon however has had a shaft change with the Crime of Angel California Angel V shaft in her now.  For those who have not tried COA shafts, do given it a go.  They are really good performers. Just make sure you pick the right model and flex for your swing and head.

Making up the rest of the pack are :

Itobori with TRPX Xanadu.  Such a controversial driver that caused an entertaining storm at the farkís site once he lost the dealership for Itobori.  All said and done, while not the most forgiving head with what feels like a smallish sweet spot, when you nut this thing, its probably still my longest combo.  Has a very strong trajectory and health roll.  Great for dry months and faster fairways.

Abroad DF570.  This foamed head is also shafted with TRPX Xanadu.  Iím a real fan of the Xanadu shaft.  The 90T construction gives a high level of stability and predictability in this light weight shaft which previously was not found in similar lightweight shafts.  The low mid kick is a perfect combo for stronger launching heads which is what this Abroad is.  Iíve yet to try the COA Burning Angel shaft which is also a low mid kick shaft.  Iím hoping it doesnít do anything more for me than the Xanadu or itíll be a thousand bucks or so to change all my Xanadus.  That said, there is room for both.. Xanadu for matte heads and Burning Angel for glossy heads.

George Spirits GTD.  Iím glad Stephen put me onto this because with the Crazy 9 shaft, it can rival the Itobori-Xanadu combo.  While the Ito has a lower pitch thuddish note, the GTD is your JPS loud head.  But the wsy she performs, she can scream all she wantsÖ  The Crazy 9 is a mid launch shaft and very tight.  As with most Crazys, plays stiff to flex.  The Crazy 9 regular flex I have feels as stiff as the Xanadu which although TRPX rates at 260 CPM feels only as stiff as my COA V sr flex shafts which COA rates at 245-250CPMs.

Proceed IX.  This is Proceedís latest offering and the latest driver for me.  The face has the laser milling thingy which is supposed to take off spin and from what I have seen, this is probably y lowest spinning head.  I have the still excellent Muziik MAVC80 in her and on course today, she hit a couple of drives which are as long as anything I have hit on those 2 holes.  It was also rather windy today and into the wind, this combo also performs vey well. Still early days as its only one round with this combo but potential is high.  If this works out, it may lead to me getting Proceed irons to match this driver and the UTs.

Last combo left is the Modart DS shafted with the Seven Dreamers.  Not the longest but a good consistent performer.  The matt carbon finish of the 7D matches the matt crown of the Modart beautifully.  Modart is still the only brand I have from driver to wedges.  Still love the CBCs and the Suda raw wedges and the Modart hybrids are still long man.  Hit my 19 degree 200 meters and flew the green today.  Didnít expect that but a happy problem.

Oh.. thereís of course the A-Grind 440 which is in my cubby.  Will want to move that on as I continue to trim my driver stash so if anyone is interested, drop me a PM.  That said, I do have a spare Xanadu which will look great with this matte head.  May move the GPOM ahead as well.

Nothing new is getting my interest .. perhaps only the RS-D.  I had a RS-001 which was vey good.. letís see.

All drivers gripped with Caderos which is my fav for UTs as well.

Howís your driver collection coming along these days?  Post some reviews and pics.
Title: Re: Its All About The Base July 2018
Post by: ian-500 on July 07, 2018, 07:11:01 AM
I'd could game all of them but would pick out the Proceed/Bangvoo if given the choice......but I like the look of the Itobori too 😉
Title: Re: Its All About The Base July 2018
Post by: wmclarenf1 on July 07, 2018, 07:16:05 AM
I'd could game all of them but would pick out the Proceed/Bangvoo if given the choice......but I like the look of the Itobori too 😉

I really like the ito too Ian.  Apart from the cally, you gaming anything else?
Title: Re: Its All About The Base July 2018
Post by: TFL07670 on July 07, 2018, 07:21:00 AM
I hated the Ito driver look.. It was tiny with an odd shape.. kinda like a trapezoid. Sold it after 1 session at the range.. haha
Title: Re: Its All About The Base July 2018
Post by: wmclarenf1 on July 07, 2018, 07:44:15 AM
I hated the Ito driver look.. It was tiny with an odd shape.. kinda like a trapezoid. Sold it after 1 session at the range.. haha

LOL yeah.. i reckon is a driver where its a love or hate extreme with no middle ground.
Title: Re: Its All About The Base July 2018
Post by: ian-500 on July 07, 2018, 09:27:10 AM
I'd could game all of them but would pick out the Proceed/Bangvoo if given the choice......but I like the look of the Itobori too 😉

I really like the ito too Ian.  Apart from the cally, you gaming anything else?

I'm afraid not Art, I can't horde like some of you guys can. I'd like to, but......
Title: Re: Its All About The Base July 2018
Post by: wmclarenf1 on July 07, 2018, 10:01:33 AM
I'd could game all of them but would pick out the Proceed/Bangvoo if given the choice......but I like the look of the Itobori too 😉

I really like the ito too Ian.  Apart from the cally, you gaming anything else?

I'm afraid not Art, I can't horde like some of you guys can. I'd like to, but......

Fully understandable
with your situation
Title: Re: Its All About The Base July 2018
Post by: Rovega on July 07, 2018, 10:45:41 AM
Wow, those cadero grips looks cool.!! Haven't been buying gear for some time now.... great write up A.
Title: Re: Its All About The Base July 2018
Post by: db2 on July 07, 2018, 11:11:55 AM
Proceed IX.  This is Proceedís latest offering and the latest driver for me.  The face has the laser milling thingy which is supposed to take off spin and from what I have seen, this is probably y lowest spinning head.  I have the still excellent Muziik MAVC80 in her and on course today, she hit a couple of drives which are as long as anything I have hit in those 2 holes.  It was also rather windy today and into the wind, this combo also performs vey well. Still early days as its only one round with this combo but potential is high.  If this works out, it may lead to me getting Proceed irons to match this driver and the UTs.

In the past, you've said that the Proceeds (I believe you had the V and one other one) launch high to loft.  How does the IX launch relative to its loft?

Thank you for the great review.
Title: Re: Its All About The Base July 2018
Post by: wmclarenf1 on July 07, 2018, 09:04:21 PM
Wow, those cadero grips looks cool.!! Haven't been buying gear for some time now.... great write up A.

Dude, good to hear from you.  I may have a trip to jkt next t month.  Let's hook up for a morning round at cengkareng.
Title: Re: Its All About The Base July 2018
Post by: wmclarenf1 on July 07, 2018, 09:06:23 PM
Proceed IX.  This is Proceedís latest offering and the latest driver for me.  The face has the laser milling thingy which is supposed to take off spin and from what I have seen, this is probably y lowest spinning head.  I have the still excellent Muziik MAVC80 in her and on course today, she hit a couple of drives which are as long as anything I have hit in those 2 holes.  It was also rather windy today and into the wind, this combo also performs vey well. Still early days as its only one round with this combo but potential is high.  If this works out, it may lead to me getting Proceed irons to match this driver and the UTs.

In the past, you've said that the Proceeds (I believe you had the V and one other one) launch high to loft.  How does the IX launch relative to its loft?

Thank you for the great review.

Hi, yes. That's been my experience with the V and VI.  The IX 9.5 is slightky lower launching loft for loft but a lot lower spinning.
Title: Re: Its All About The Base July 2018
Post by: 604_skyline on July 08, 2018, 01:06:54 PM
for the abroad head, both driver and fw is it that the heads with the red paint fill are foamed and the heads with the yellow paint fill are not?
Title: Re: Its All About The Base July 2018
Post by: wmclarenf1 on July 08, 2018, 06:44:56 PM
for the abroad head, both driver and fw is it that the heads with the red paint fill are foamed and the heads with the yellow paint fill are not?

I've never noticed that. Unless they have released a new non foamed version  my understanding is this model is foamed.  Don't know about the fw.
Title: Re: Its All About The Base July 2018
Post by: tsupo67 on July 08, 2018, 07:09:56 PM
cadero on all yr drivers.... great minds!!!

cant even think to not  have them on mine  these days, theres a cpl  I still havnt got them on  and subconsciously   I wont take those out to play bec of it.

I cant stand them on irons tho  nor on fairway woods unless its a tee alt.  only  and i just put one onto my  honma   driving  iron made a really nice difference to my confidence to shape the ball a bit better.

absolutely love these grips


Title: Re: Its All About The Base July 2018
Post by: mauvanilla on July 09, 2018, 08:26:54 AM
We have quite a few things in common. I am also a fan of the Xanadu. I bought on an auction with a TROX D-016 head (which is just an average head) but as you said the feel and performance is top notch. I didn't have the time or $ to change the head but I am keeping it in one of the step bags.

But... you should get a Grandista on your team  ;D Ö Just saying ha ha ha ha ha ha
Title: Re: Its All About The Base July 2018
Post by: wmclarenf1 on July 09, 2018, 09:24:32 AM
cadero on all yr drivers.... great minds!!!

cant even think to not  have them on mine  these days, theres a cpl  I still havnt got them on  and subconsciously   I wont take those out to play bec of it.

I cant stand them on irons tho  nor on fairway woods unless its a tee alt.  only  and i just put one onto my  honma   driving  iron made a really nice difference to my confidence to shape the ball a bit better.

absolutely love these grips

One of your posts on Cadero put me onto them. Its slightly big for me and hence like that in my driver as it helps with release.. I think :D
Title: Re: Its All About The Base July 2018
Post by: wmclarenf1 on July 09, 2018, 09:27:14 AM

But... you should get a Grandista on your team  ;D Ö Just saying ha ha ha ha ha ha

Dont egg me on Mau... I've done well to trim my driver stash...If I can move along my Agrind 440, I may get the RS-D to try...
Title: Re: Its All About The Base July 2018
Post by: tsupo67 on July 09, 2018, 06:05:43 PM
what I find with thicker , lighter grips is the level of control is greatly improved ,especially when shaping the ball,,
I cant hit a straight drive for the life of me, 
the scariest shot in golf for me is a dead straight 450 yard  par  4  with a cross wind.. I just cant see  the shot , with thin   driver grips I get a bit flicky with the fingers and I loose a lot left or block dead right.
 with the caderos   im finding that  big misses  have been substantially reduced and the bad shots are much better.
   I think I hit a longer ball  way more frequently with   the masdas  or perfect pros on  but I cant control the shape, so I take  the conservative route now a days .
 I cant move the ball around anywhere near as much with a thicker grip which equates to more fairways hit but prob at a  loss of total distance.

 I don't think that's  a bad  thing!
Title: Re: Its All About The Base July 2018
Post by: Rovega on July 10, 2018, 10:56:05 AM

Dude, good to hear from you.  I may have a trip to jkt next t month.  Let's hook up for a morning round at cengkareng.
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Sure A, just gimme a msg n watsapp when u r in town
Title: Re: Its All About The Base July 2018
Post by: nobwas on July 10, 2018, 11:50:31 AM
what I find with thicker , lighter grips is the level of control is greatly improved ,especially when shaping the ball,,
I cant hit a straight drive for the life of me, 
the scariest shot in golf for me is a dead straight 450 yard  par  4  with a cross wind.. I just cant see  the shot , with thin   driver grips I get a bit flicky with the fingers and I loose a lot left or block dead right.
 with the caderos   im finding that  big misses  have been substantially reduced and the bad shots are much better.
   I think I hit a longer ball  way more frequently with   the masdas  or perfect pros on  but I cant control the shape, so I take  the conservative route now a days .
 I cant move the ball around anywhere near as much with a thicker grip which equates to more fairways hit but prob at a  loss of total distance.

 I don't think that's  a bad  thing!

Where I play here in Washington (with mature, tall trees), ball placement in the fairway really dictate whether I can hit the green in regulation or not.
Distance is a bonus but accuracy is essential.     I'm also using 3 wood off the tees more often.
Title: Re: Its All About The Base July 2018
Post by: db2 on July 10, 2018, 04:43:10 PM
Yes, I've played at Seattle Golf Club several times and if you miss the fairway, you're dead.  If the tree is in your way, you can't hit your ball under the tree because the branches grow out from the top of the tree all the way down to the bottom of the trunk.  If your ball is within the branches you have to take an unplayable because there's no way you can take a long enough swing to generate enough power to get it out from underneath the tree. 
Title: Re: Its All About The Base July 2018
Post by: tsupo67 on July 10, 2018, 08:03:20 PM
most of my golf now is links   virtually 100% when I go away,  so the  tree thing doesn't play to my mind at all, its wind that I have to  work with  more than  physical obstakkkkkkkles.  and prob why ive gravitated to  so many lower launching stiffer  drivers that don't get beat up.
  As you know Nobs up here we get setai courses for the most  part and the trees are there but they don't really affect the drive. thinner fairway with grass in the middle  is more of a pain that tree lined fairways, unless we go to  the country side.
got 3 games this long weekend up country   with HUGE trees.  first time in a year ive played these tracks so im guessing the kamui pro tp07 w 10.5* with diamana X    and justick  proceed 10* with diamana aliislei  wil get the most use , hit some   high soaring  bombs .. hopefully  NOT  into the thicket!
Title: Re: Its All About The Base July 2018
Post by: nobwas on July 11, 2018, 12:38:22 AM
Couple of the guys here in the area and I are planning on doing Chambers Bay sometime late August or early September.  Never played a real links course so itíll be interesting. 
Will definitely take my Grandista RSD or Crazy 435 in anticipation of windy conditions.
Title: Re: Its All About The Base July 2018
Post by: wmclarenf1 on July 11, 2018, 01:07:35 AM
Stop mentioning the 435 already.  I was toying with getting one again for the 4th time...
Title: Re: Its All About The Base July 2018
Post by: tsupo67 on July 11, 2018, 01:59:07 AM
its been my  view that the ryoma d1 is  prob close if not the best wind buster  ive made, that gts good distance to boot,  that and the egg7  re shafted to 44 inch  they don't move.
The  ryoma was so impressive  in golden week  back home in big wind , id never not take that with me to premium courses, ESP  wind affected ones.
Title: Re: Its All About The Base July 2018
Post by: mauvanilla on July 11, 2018, 06:55:04 AM
Stop mentioning the 435 already.  I was toying with getting one again for the 4th time...

I ve got a 435 on the Sankiplanaria Bamboo... B-E-A-S-T it is... Would it be a Grandista or a 435?
Title: Re: Its All About The Base July 2018
Post by: wmclarenf1 on July 11, 2018, 07:35:41 AM
Stop mentioning the 435 already.  I was toying with getting one again for the 4th time...

I ve got a 435 on the Sankiplanaria Bamboo... B-E-A-S-T it is... Would it be a Grandista or a 435?

How's the bamboo shaft?  What flex is it?  Can you compare it to ANY AAA you've played.  I really like the look..

435... stop it!!!! :)  smite for you.. ;D
Title: Re: Its All About The Base July 2018
Post by: db2 on July 11, 2018, 09:06:07 AM
its been my  view that the ryoma d1 is  prob close if not the best wind buster  ive made, that gts good distance to boot,  that and the egg7  re shafted to 44 inch  they don't move.
The  ryoma was so impressive  in golden week  back home in big wind , id never not take that with me to premium courses, ESP  wind affected ones.

I know that you also have a T388.  How would you compare the launch and spin of the D-1 and T388?  Iíve owned both but I never played with them in windy conditions.
Title: Re: Its All About The Base July 2018
Post by: nobwas on July 11, 2018, 09:53:43 AM
Stop mentioning the 435 already.  I was toying with getting one again for the 4th time...

The one I have now is like my 5th or 6th attempt!! :)  Somehow got the sound well under control on this one.  Face still looks a bit closed but I learned to correct that at address.   Not a huge issue any more.   I used to think this head was not forgiving at all but after several years since my last try,  I think my striking skill has finally caught up to be comfortable with the 435.   Itís a top notch performance head no doubt.    Itís a back up driver at the moment but Iíd take it to any course that Iím somewhat familiar with without hesitation.   While my RSD is a low launch draw producing machine,  the 435 is better at producing low launch fade shots.    The Diamond Speeder in the 435 is also part of the reason itís working out.  Even at 50g level, itís as stable as any driver shaft Iíve tried.
Title: Re: Its All About The Base July 2018
Post by: mauvanilla on July 13, 2018, 09:09:01 PM
Stop mentioning the 435 already.  I was toying with getting one again for the 4th time...

I ve got a 435 on the Sankiplanaria Bamboo... B-E-A-S-T it is... Would it be a Grandista or a 435?

How's the bamboo shaft?  What flex is it?  Can you compare it to ANY AAA you've played.  I really like the look..

435... stop it!!!! :)  smite for you.. ;D

The only AAA I have played was the 2015 (which was on the Buddy driver). It does have some similarities but I felt the AAA more stiff and rigid than the Bamboo; but I haven't played anything that actually performs like it. The one I am playing is 46 inches; D3.5 and S63. When you swing hard it is quite long and straight; I don't feel it difficult but it is different (hard to put down in words). I am thinking of ordering another Sanki for a grandista (I love that RS-D); but I will go S70. The Bamboo is beautiful. All their stuff is top notch. I own their putter and it is just gorgeous; the attention to details is amazing!
Title: Re: Its All About The Base July 2018
Post by: wmclarenf1 on July 13, 2018, 10:38:10 PM
Stop mentioning the 435 already.  I was toying with getting one again for the 4th time...

I ve got a 435 on the Sankiplanaria Bamboo... B-E-A-S-T it is... Would it be a Grandista or a 435?

How's the bamboo shaft?  What flex is it?  Can you compare it to ANY AAA you've played.  I really like the look..

435... stop it!!!! :)  smite for you.. ;D

The only AAA I have played was the 2015 (which was on the Buddy driver). It does have some similarities but I felt the AAA more stiff and rigid than the Bamboo; but I haven't played anything that actually performs like it. The one I am playing is 46 inches; D3.5 and S63. When you swing hard it is quite long and straight; I don't feel it difficult but it is different (hard to put down in words). I am thinking of ordering another Sanki for a grandista (I love that RS-D); but I will go S70. The Bamboo is beautiful. All their stuff is top notch. I own their putter and it is just gorgeous; the attention to details is amazing!

Whoa!  Sanki has putters?  Pics pls.

Also, what flex is your bamboo and what weight and flex in the 2015 AAA pls?

Thanks
Title: Re: Its All About The Base July 2018
Post by: mauvanilla on July 14, 2018, 07:53:25 AM
Sorry I wrote smething wrong; the AAA was a 2014 model (silver color) and 70 Stiff

The Sanki Bamboo is a 63 Stiff

The Sanki putter was a limited edition; not sure if they still have it. Pictures of all stuff below[attachimg=1][attachimg=2][attachimg=3][attach=4][attachimg=4][attachimg=5][attachimg=6][attachimg=7][attachimg=8][attachimg=9][attachimg=10]
Title: Re: Its All About The Base July 2018
Post by: wmclarenf1 on July 14, 2018, 07:58:18 AM
Check out that putter shaft man!!!!
Title: Re: Its All About The Base July 2018
Post by: magpies on July 14, 2018, 08:09:36 AM
what a putter. do u use it?
Title: Re: Its All About The Base July 2018
Post by: mauvanilla on July 14, 2018, 08:34:06 AM
what a putter. do u use it?

Don't use on regular basis and don't leave in the club bag. The shaft is gorgeous and very good feel. The putter itself is heavy and face is not super soft (I am not the most technical guy but I think most of the feel comes from shaft itself )... Usually take it on my golf trips.
Title: Re: Its All About The Base July 2018
Post by: 604_skyline on July 14, 2018, 10:27:36 AM
what makes these crz-435 heads all appear closed? i know they offer them up to -2* open, yet they can still appear face closed at address?
Title: Re: Its All About The Base July 2018
Post by: ian-500 on July 14, 2018, 11:08:23 AM
That putter and driver shaft look stunning.
Title: Re: Its All About The Base July 2018
Post by: MBBG on July 14, 2018, 11:20:26 AM
what makes these crz-435 heads all appear closed? i know they offer them up to -2* open, yet they can still appear face closed at address?

Iíve had several including the blackout specíd 2* open. All look closed which I cannot stand at address. Mentally makes me think Iím going to hook the hell out of it. Thatís the biggest reason theyíve never stuck around for me. The other reason is they kinda sound and feel like crap and I donít find enough if any performance gain to justify hating the way it looks and sounds. But they do seem to be a real unicorn for certain players.
Title: Re: Its All About The Base July 2018
Post by: freehb on July 14, 2018, 01:50:39 PM
Wow, loving the sankie!  Dibs on that 63s?..
Title: Re: Its All About The Base July 2018
Post by: mauvanilla on July 15, 2018, 06:12:30 AM
Both Sanki were a gift to myself after winning a battle over some serious disease Ö Will keep them until the last days as a memory and symbol of victory!
Title: Re: Its All About The Base July 2018
Post by: 95124hacker on July 15, 2018, 09:20:04 AM
Looks like a 435 is in play on the JLPGA/KLPGA...
Title: Re: Its All About The Base July 2018
Post by: wmclarenf1 on July 15, 2018, 10:00:37 PM
Could be all about her Base too...
Title: Re: Its All About The Base July 2018
Post by: wmclarenf1 on July 21, 2018, 08:12:57 AM
The Proceed IX is a very low spinning head.  I've hit very long drives with it but not consistently enough.  I'm going to try a Xanadu in it but spin wise with the MAVC, it's looking to be a bit more (or less as the case is) than is right for me.
Title: Re: Its All About The Base July 2018
Post by: freehb on July 21, 2018, 08:48:59 AM
Looks like a 435 is in play on the JLPGA/KLPGA...

She could yankie my sankie any time she rikey....
Title: Re: Its All About The Base July 2018
Post by: db2 on July 21, 2018, 09:10:43 AM
The Proceed IX is a very low spinning head.  I've hit very long drives with it but not consistently enough.  I'm going to try a Xanadu in it but spin wise with the MAVC, it's looking to be a bit more (or less as the case is) than is right for me.

If the Xanadu doesn't work out, do you like the club enough to buy another one in a higher loft?
Title: Re: Its All About The Base July 2018
Post by: MBBG on July 21, 2018, 12:18:48 PM
Looks like a 435 is in play on the JLPGA/KLPGA...

Who is this? My goodness
Title: Re: Its All About The Base July 2018
Post by: 604_skyline on July 21, 2018, 01:11:58 PM
Looks like a 435 is in play on the JLPGA/KLPGA...

Who is this? My goodness

Shin Ae Ahn
Title: Re: Its All About The Base July 2018
Post by: nobwas on July 21, 2018, 11:30:45 PM
Well, First a gal named Rumi Yoshiba started using 435 Crazy Royal Decoration combo after her equipment sponsor Nike stopped making clubs and she had a couple of appearances in the LPGA tournaments in Asia where she was marking longest drives of the tournament.  Yoshiba used to work at Crazy Tokyo before becoming a tour pro according to an article I read.   So now a few JLPGA players are using this combo including Ahn.  Ahn is currently known as the ďSexy golferĒ in Japan LPGA. 
Title: Re: Its All About The Base July 2018
Post by: wmclarenf1 on July 21, 2018, 11:45:59 PM
The Proceed IX is a very low spinning head.  I've hit very long drives with it but not consistently enough.  I'm going to try a Xanadu in it but spin wise with the MAVC, it's looking to be a bit more (or less as the case is) than is right for me.

If the Xanadu doesn't work out, do you like the club enough to buy another one in a higher loft?

Its not a loft issue.  Trajectory of this is what I'm used to.  It's the spin.
Title: Re: Its All About The Base July 2018
Post by: 95124hacker on July 22, 2018, 08:47:01 AM
Well, First a gal named Rumi Yoshida started using 435 Crazy Royal Decoration combo after her equipment sponsor Nike stopped making clubs and she had a couple of appearances in the LPGA tournaments in Asia where she was marking longest drives of the tournament.  Yoshiba used to work at Crazy Tokyo before becoming a tour pro according to an article I read.   So now a few JLPGA players are using this combo including Ahn.  Ahn is currently known as the ďSexy golferĒ in Japan LPGA.

If sheís ďsexy golferĒ, what do they call Hyeonjoo Ryu?


Title: Re: Its All About The Base July 2018
Post by: ian-500 on July 22, 2018, 09:35:10 AM
Now she is my cup of tea.....
Title: Re: Its All About The Base July 2018
Post by: DaleUK on July 22, 2018, 09:37:04 AM
Holy shit she is nice!!
Title: Re: Its All About The Base July 2018
Post by: wmclarenf1 on July 22, 2018, 10:16:32 AM
Man.. It's really all about the Base...
Title: Re: Its All About The Base July 2018
Post by: DaleUK on July 22, 2018, 11:12:12 AM
... I started to thicken up.
Title: Re: Its All About The Base July 2018
Post by: freehb on July 28, 2018, 06:38:06 AM
Man.. It's really all about the Base...
Man.. It's really all about the Base...

So true art...  Thx for the visual Dale...ughh...