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Title: Grandista RS-D !!!
Post by: nobwas on February 24, 2018, 07:44:27 PM
http://gifu-advantage.com/blog.php?id=831

Release in April.   445cc. All Titanium construction this time.  SP700 face!
Gonna have to get one to pair it with my AAA Ď15  shaft!!

Title: Re: Grandista RS-D !!!
Post by: wmclarenf1 on February 24, 2018, 08:02:25 PM
Looks to be a shallow face head?
Title: Re: Grandista RS-D !!!
Post by: nobwas on February 24, 2018, 10:16:06 PM
From the pics it does look like mid shallow to shallow profile which I do not mind.
Really glad to see they went with Sp700 and also moved away from carbon crown.
Pretty excited about this one!

Title: Re: Grandista RS-D !!!
Post by: freehb on February 25, 2018, 02:01:36 PM
Oh my, that is a nice looking head.  I prefer a shallower profile...seems to suit my swing for some reason...that's definitely on our radar for free agents this season...very very nice!
Title: Re: Grandista RS-D !!!
Post by: tsupo67 on February 25, 2018, 05:58:06 PM
had my first waggle  with the carbon bottomed  last week,  didnt hit it but by the looks of it this has got to be one incredibly easy to hit drivers. looks as forgiving as ive seen
Title: Re: Grandista RS-D !!!
Post by: nobwas on February 27, 2018, 10:00:32 AM
Now that is a good looking head.   Better than the Modart I have now.

Apparently slightly open face with draw biased weight ...   
Title: Re: Grandista RS-D !!!
Post by: mauvanilla on June 12, 2018, 05:20:47 AM
Been busy and quite difficult to post even though I read the forum a lot. So; I thought there was a review on this one but I couldn't find on the search.

SO apologies and please allow me a quick review (which surely lacks the technical wording). For a month or so; I ve got a new RS-D on a Crazy CB-80LS SX (bought on buyee Ö That Samurai-Golf shop which by the way is a very nice seller) swing weight is D2.

I still hold another Grandista in one of my bags (RS-001 - the DAT55G face) on a Tour AD MJ-7 S; it has been one of the drivers I really like even though the shaft is not that "refined".

In anyway; the new Grandista is simply excellent - forgiving and long. The feel is not super soft nor super hard; it seems a very "sober" and "well balanced" head.

It is very forgiving (really easy to hit) but also long (I think the shaft contributes for this).

In any way; a highly recommended driver and in my very humble opinion; Grandista stands there in the top among the best (for me a favorite!)
Title: Re: Grandista RS-D !!!
Post by: nobwas on June 12, 2018, 08:15:51 AM
Couldnít agree more!!  I have a 9 deg head shafted with AAA 2015.  The Trajectory is on the low side but I am getting so much more roll after the ball lands.   In fact I got my first Longest Drive in a Field Day last weekend in a 9 and under handicap division for the Menís club at my home course!!  The feel off the face to me is just right.  Not overly muted.. just a nice softer metallic sound that is pleasing to the ears.  As Mauvanilla says,  this head is very forgiving.  Shape is very traditional looking and just beautiful to look at.  The head is draw biased so my ball flight has a nice baby draw but when I consciously create a bit more lag in my swing it goes straight with a very strong trajectory.   I read that this head was designed as a countermeasure against big 460 heads that are harder to square at impact due to the longer CG distance from the axis of rotation.  And that it is.  The ease of being able to square the face is contributing to the higher percentage of fairways I am hitting these days.  Also marked a season low of 74 with this driver in the bag! 
Title: Re: Grandista RS-D !!!
Post by: mauvanilla on July 02, 2018, 08:07:10 AM
Sorry bringing this back; but I need to share with the forum Bros. My last five rounds with this driver has been nothing short of spectacular!

And if I may emphasize; is not only long but is "forgiving long". One of my buddies who is a scratch golfer hit last week when I was in Bali and said it is indeed a fantastic driver. He thought it was a high-cor "illegal" one...

All of my longest drivers in my home course "Discovery Bay Hong Kong" were achieved with this one...

Very little talked about it; so I thought I should bump this thread back up.

And just hijacking a bit; I ve got one of those Bamboos Sankiplanaria shafts and will try to write a review the soonest.

Title: Re: Grandista RS-D !!!
Post by: wmclarenf1 on July 02, 2018, 09:58:16 AM
Sorry bringing this back; but I need to share with the forum Bros. My last five rounds with this driver has been nothing short of spectacular!

And if I may emphasize; is not only long but is "forgiving long". One of my buddies who is a scratch golfer hit last week when I was in Bali and said it is indeed a fantastic driver. He thought it was a high-cor "illegal" one...

All of my longest drivers in my home course "Discovery Bay Hong Kong" were achieved with this one...

Very little talked about it; so I thought I should bump this thread back up.

And just hijacking a bit; I ve got one of those Bamboos Sankiplanaria shafts and will try to write a review the soonest.

Thanks for the feedback Mau.  Just curious, how is the roll at Disco Bay? 
Title: Re: Grandista RS-D !!!
Post by: mauvanilla on July 03, 2018, 08:20:44 AM
Sorry bringing this back; but I need to share with the forum Bros. My last five rounds with this driver has been nothing short of spectacular!

And if I may emphasize; is not only long but is "forgiving long". One of my buddies who is a scratch golfer hit last week when I was in Bali and said it is indeed a fantastic driver. He thought it was a high-cor "illegal" one...

All of my longest drivers in my home course "Discovery Bay Hong Kong" were achieved with this one...

Very little talked about it; so I thought I should bump this thread back up.

And just hijacking a bit; I ve got one of those Bamboos Sankiplanaria shafts and will try to write a review the soonest.

Thanks for the feedback Mau.  Just curious, how is the roll at Disco Bay?

The golf course is a bit better than last year. The Ruby course opened a couple of months ago which gives a bit more breath for Diamond and Jade. Fairways are alright but far from fantastic while the green is only good at Ruby. For the other two courses the greens are still bad... When compared to the course conditions of Fanling or Clearwater Bay (and even Kau Sai Chau); the greens in DB are a shame.

Two or three weeks ago there was some kind of "parasite" that attacked the fairways and rough; which in my personal opinion was a major failure from the management of the course to spot it. Fortunately it is recovering now.

With all that said; still fun to play  :D

I trust you are based in SG; but if you or any other member of the forum happen to be in HK; give me a shout and we play a round together.
Title: Re: Grandista RS-D !!!
Post by: wmclarenf1 on July 03, 2018, 09:26:42 AM
Sorry bringing this back; but I need to share with the forum Bros. My last five rounds with this driver has been nothing short of spectacular!

And if I may emphasize; is not only long but is "forgiving long". One of my buddies who is a scratch golfer hit last week when I was in Bali and said it is indeed a fantastic driver. He thought it was a high-cor "illegal" one...

All of my longest drivers in my home course "Discovery Bay Hong Kong" were achieved with this one...

Very little talked about it; so I thought I should bump this thread back up.

And just hijacking a bit; I ve got one of those Bamboos Sankiplanaria shafts and will try to write a review the soonest.

Thanks for the feedback Mau.  Just curious, how is the roll at Disco Bay?

The golf course is a bit better than last year. The Ruby course opened a couple of months ago which gives a bit more breath for Diamond and Jade. Fairways are alright but far from fantastic while the green is only good at Ruby. For the other two courses the greens are still bad... When compared to the course conditions of Fanling or Clearwater Bay (and even Kau Sai Chau); the greens in DB are a shame.

Two or three weeks ago there was some kind of "parasite" that attacked the fairways and rough; which in my personal opinion was a major failure from the management of the course to spot it. Fortunately it is recovering now.

With all that said; still fun to play  :D

I trust you are based in SG; but if you or any other member of the forum happen to be in HK; give me a shout and we play a round together.

I;ve got reciprocal at Disco Bay and Clear water and I;ve played Disco several times.  The reason I ask is from what I can recall, during the "winter" season, the course is rather wet and soggy so I'd imagine no roll.  If you do get roll in those conditions, than indeed, the RS-D has something..

Will definitely buzz you if I;m in HK. Steven is on his way back as well... you should link up with him too. High end equipment ho...
Title: Re: Grandista RS-D !!!
Post by: mauvanilla on July 03, 2018, 08:50:00 PM
Sorry I misunderstood your question. Yes; the Grandista does give  good roll even on wet conditions. I play in the bag a Ryoma and the difference is brutal. I use the Ryoma for more controlled shots which I don't want the ball to roll that much and the Grandista for longer shots.

I know you have (or used to have) the RS-001; which I also used to love and was a keeper; but after the RS-D the RS-001 is now taking dust in the step bag.

If you happen to  visit here you can try the driver yourself. An more than happy to meet Steven too!

Title: Re: Grandista RS-D !!!
Post by: wmclarenf1 on July 03, 2018, 09:10:27 PM
Sorry I misunderstood your question. Yes; the Grandista does give  good roll even on wet conditions. I play in the bag a Ryoma and the difference is brutal. I use the Ryoma for more controlled shots which I don't want the ball to roll that much and the Grandista for longer shots.

I know you have (or used to have) the RS-001; which I also used to love and was a keeper; but after the RS-D the RS-001 is now taking dust in the step bag.

If you happen to  visit here you can try the driver yourself. An more than happy to meet Steven too!

Mau, you are evil!  ;D  I'm in the process of trimming driver and shafts... You're encouraging the opposite.
Title: Re: Grandista RS-D !!!
Post by: wmclarenf1 on July 07, 2018, 08:23:22 AM
Found this sound clip for those interested.. Quite a nice twack..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQXYHZ5uss4
Title: Re: Grandista RS-D !!!
Post by: nobwas on July 07, 2018, 03:51:47 PM
The sound of the RS-D is close to perfect as I can hope for. 
A nice well behaved  "Thwack"  with just enough metallic sound mixed in.


 
 
Title: Re: Grandista RS-D !!!
Post by: wmclarenf1 on July 12, 2018, 01:54:26 AM
So I'm getting more interested in the RS-d.  Looking at the pics below, the Isle plate skeleton looks similar to the LS. 

What are the differences?  Crown material, face material, cg placement, face height, size etc?

Thanks
Title: Re: Grandista RS-D !!!
Post by: ian-500 on July 12, 2018, 03:15:37 AM
New one looks to be draw biased. Love the sole on the older one. Can those carbon plates be swapped out for heavier/lighter ones?
Title: Re: Grandista RS-D !!!
Post by: nobwas on July 12, 2018, 11:39:20 AM
So I'm getting more interested in the RS-d.  Looking at the pics below, the Isle plate skeleton looks similar to the LS. 

What are the differences?  Crown material, face material, cg placement, face height, size etc?

Thanks

LS-001
Carbon Crown
Carbon Sole plates
9 weight screws
DAT55G face
450cc
CG Distance 43mm
CG Depth 38mm
CG Height 29.5mm


RS-D
All Titanium construction
2 weight screws
SP700 face
445cc
CG Distance 35mm
CG Depth 35mm
CG Height 33mm
Title: Re: Grandista RS-D !!!
Post by: nobwas on July 12, 2018, 12:03:06 PM
New one looks to be draw biased. Love the sole on the older one. Can those carbon plates be swapped out for heavier/lighter ones?

The carbon plates cannot be replaced.   The 9 little screws are actually weight screws.  there are made with different material for the different weights.
you can offset the weights to change the bias using these 9 screws.   

Grandista's belief based on their feedback from their users and students (CEO Yoshida is a teaching Pro and an Ex Long Drive Champion)
is that amateur players need help in fully capturing the ball at impact.     
Easiest method to achieve this is to make the face closed ...  but we all know this is not desired by most players.
What they did was to keep the face angle square or actually a bit open but to have internal weighting on the heel to make it easier to square the face at impact.   RS-D has two weight screws an 8g and a 2g by default which can further offset the CG to make the head even more easier to square at impact. 
I have my weight set to 8g on the back and 2g on the heel.   Even at this setting, I'm drawing almost 100% of the time.

At first I was a bit worried about this new head being draw biased ... because I actually don't have problems drawing the ball even with my very large 460cc Ping G20.   Initial couple of range sessions showed that indeed RS-D was somewhat draw happy head.   but after switching out the weights to a less draw setting,  it has become a more consistent baby draw.    With the Ping G20 I had occasional misses to the right ( like a block shot ) when my swing went awry.   With the RS-D  no more misses to the right and I am on the fairway more often.   Can't complain about that.

Only warning for those who are planning to try the RS-D is to possibly go 0.5 deg or a full deg higher on the loft than normal.  Loft for loft it seems to go lower than most other heads.    Think JBeam/Crazy 435 in terms of loft vs. trajectory

   
Title: Re: Grandista RS-D !!!
Post by: db2 on July 12, 2018, 01:01:06 PM
Thereís a lot to be said about improving performance by being able to eliminate one side of the fairway.  I had a 3W that only knew how to fade, even though I hook the ball.  Iím currently in driver search mode and would like to find two drivers: one that wonít miss left and another that wonít miss right.
Title: Re: Grandista RS-D !!!
Post by: nobwas on July 12, 2018, 01:30:54 PM
This RS-D would be a good candidate for one that eliminates misses to the right.
Title: Re: Grandista RS-D !!!
Post by: 604_skyline on July 12, 2018, 07:33:48 PM
nobwas,

you probably have the most time with the rs-d, i know you mention the draw bias, but there is the ability to tweak it slightly. do you think it would be possible to set this head up for even the slightest of fade? i am anti left, and prefer to hit a power fade off the tee with a driver even when the shot does not necessarily call for it, so would it be possible to set this head up for at least neutral to slight fade or full fade?

secondly the face angle on these are pretty much square correct? not like a jbeam/crazy 435 where u can get a -2 open head.

finally, what is the face depth like on the rs-d compared to the jbeam/crazy crz-435 i know nothing really compares to the deepness of the baldo 568 competizion or the new blado ttx both in 420cc those are massive deep and really my preference, but...

Title: Re: Grandista RS-D !!!
Post by: wmclarenf1 on July 12, 2018, 09:18:29 PM
New one looks to be draw biased. Love the sole on the older one. Can those carbon plates be swapped out for heavier/lighter ones?

The carbon plates cannot be replaced.   The 9 little screws are actually weight screws.  there are made with different material for the different weights.
you can offset the weights to change the bias using these 9 screws.   

Grandista's belief based on their feedback from their users and students (CEO Yoshida is a teaching Pro and an Ex Long Drive Champion)
is that amateur players need help in fully capturing the ball at impact.     
Easiest method to achieve this is to make the face closed ...  but we all know this is not desired by most players.
What they did was to keep the face angle square or actually a bit open but to have internal weighting on the heel to make it easier to square the face at impact.   RS-D has two weight screws an 8g and a 2g by default which can further offset the CG to make the head even more easier to square at impact. 
I have my weight set to 8g on the back and 2g on the heel.   Even at this setting, I'm drawing almost 100% of the time.

At first I was a bit worried about this new head being draw biased ... because I actually don't have problems drawing the ball even with my very large 460cc Ping G20.   Initial couple of range sessions showed that indeed RS-D was somewhat draw happy head.   but after switching out the weights to a less draw setting,  it has become a more consistent baby draw.    With the Ping G20 I had occasional misses to the right ( like a block shot ) when my swing went awry.   With the RS-D  no more misses to the right and I am on the fairway more often.   Can't complain about that.

Only warning for those who are planning to try the RS-D is to possibly go 0.5 deg or a full deg higher on the loft than normal.  Loft for loft it seems to go lower than most other heads.    Think JBeam/Crazy 435 in terms of loft vs. trajectory

 

Good stuff Nob.  Thanks
Title: Re: Grandista RS-D !!!
Post by: nobwas on July 13, 2018, 12:15:03 AM
nobwas,

you probably have the most time with the rs-d, i know you mention the draw bias, but there is the ability to tweak it slightly. do you think it would be possible to set this head up for even the slightest of fade? i am anti left, and prefer to hit a power fade off the tee with a driver even when the shot does not necessarily call for it, so would it be possible to set this head up for at least neutral to slight fade or full fade?

secondly the face angle on these are pretty much square correct? not like a jbeam/crazy 435 where u can get a -2 open head.

finally, what is the face depth like on the rs-d compared to the jbeam/crazy crz-435 i know nothing really compares to the deepness of the baldo 568 competizion or the new blado ttx both in 420cc those are massive deep and really my preference, but...

As I understand the head is already somewhat draw biased by design even without the weight screws.
I donít think fade bias with this driver is a option.   But hey thatís me.  Perhaps others with the right skills can hit fades with this.   

Face height is also semi shallow.  Definitely shallower than the JBeam 435.
I like my driver on the shallow side so it fits my eyes well.

The overall profile kind of reminds me of the P Tune PG 313 for a few years back.  However the RSD feels much more forgiving.
Title: Re: Grandista RS-D !!!
Post by: wmclarenf1 on July 19, 2018, 09:46:24 AM
I succumbed.... Will pair it with the COA California...
Title: Re: Grandista RS-D !!!
Post by: mauvanilla on July 19, 2018, 11:34:08 PM
And you will LOVE it!
Title: Re: Grandista RS-D !!!
Post by: wmclarenf1 on July 20, 2018, 01:16:01 AM
And you will LOVE it!

You and Nob are not good influences...
Title: Re: Grandista RS-D !!!
Post by: mauvanilla on July 20, 2018, 07:12:56 AM
If you get hooked; bring the beast to HK and lets have a round in DB!
Title: Re: Grandista RS-D !!!
Post by: wmclarenf1 on July 20, 2018, 07:21:01 AM
If you get hooked; bring the beast to HK and lets have a round in DB!

That's a thought.  Steven is back in HK now as well. 
Title: Re: Grandista RS-D !!!
Post by: nobwas on July 20, 2018, 12:55:26 PM
And you will LOVE it!

You and Nob are not good influences...


While it is somewhat of a draw happy driver especially for natural draw hitters, once you learn how to tame it ( which is really not hard to do ) ,  it will give you a very strong piercing trajectory. 


Title: Re: Grandista RS-D !!!
Post by: nobwas on July 23, 2018, 11:59:37 PM
I was getting bored and the Modart MA01D+R was really shooting high so I decided to pull the AAA '15 out of the Grandista and try.
The Grandista got the Diamond Speeder from the Crazy 435 Limited to help with a bit more launch.

Something interesting happened with this shaft swap.  The Grandista that was draw happy and a bit low flying with the AAA is now straight to baby fade with the Diamond Speeder with slightly added launch.    The Modart with the AAA is a now shooting a bit lower compared to when it had the 7D shaft as anticipated so that was good ....  Perfect!!   Perhaps this new combo was how I was supposed to do it in the first place!






Title: Re: Grandista RS-D !!!
Post by: wmclarenf1 on July 24, 2018, 01:24:32 AM
I was getting bored and the Modart MA01D+R was really shooting high so I decided to pull the AAA '15 out of the Grandista and try.
The Grandista got the Diamond Speeder from the Crazy 435 Limited to help with a bit more launch.

Something interesting happened with this shaft swap.  The Grandista that was draw happy and a bit low flying with the AAA is now straight to baby fade with the Diamond Speeder with slightly added launch.    The Modart with the AAA is a now shooting a bit lower compared to when it had the 7D shaft as anticipated so that was good ....  Perfect!!   Perhaps this new combo was how I was supposed to do it in the first place!

Hmm, based on your info from this shaft switch,  I'm thinking if I should try the Xanadu in the RS-d before the COA California as the COA is a lower launching shaft.  It would look better with the RS-d though  :)
Title: Re: Grandista RS-D !!!
Post by: nobwas on July 24, 2018, 02:24:22 AM
Well I went with a 9 deg head this time based on my experience with the LS-001 and RS-001 in which I had 9.5 deg both times.
I felt they were a tiny bit high for my liking so I went down 0.5 deg.   Well it turns out this all Ti head does not launch as high as the previous models.   I guess that is expected since the previous models probably had lower CG by using carbon crown.    I think Xanadu will be awesome with the RS-D.
 
Title: Re: Grandista RS-D !!!
Post by: wmclarenf1 on July 24, 2018, 02:30:47 AM
Well I went with a 9 deg head this time based on my experience with the LS-001 and RS-001 in which I had 9.5 deg both times.
I felt they were a tiny bit high for my liking so I went down 0.5 deg.   Well it turns out this all Ti head does not launch as high as the previous models.   I guess that is expected since the previous models probably had lower CG by using carbon crown.    I think Xanadu will be awesome with the RS-D.

I went with 10, same as my RS-001. Really looking forward to getting it. I'd be using the rsd as default for my Grind Studio bag.

Have you tried changing the weights on the RS-d? Same gauge as jbeam or more like proceed weight shape or totally different?
Title: Re: Grandista RS-D !!!
Post by: mauvanilla on July 24, 2018, 08:49:19 AM
I was getting bored and the Modart MA01D+R was really shooting high so I decided to pull the AAA '15 out of the Grandista and try.
The Grandista got the Diamond Speeder from the Crazy 435 Limited to help with a bit more launch.

Something interesting happened with this shaft swap.  The Grandista that was draw happy and a bit low flying with the AAA is now straight to baby fade with the Diamond Speeder with slightly added launch.    The Modart with the AAA is a now shooting a bit lower compared to when it had the 7D shaft as anticipated so that was good ....  Perfect!!   Perhaps this new combo was how I was supposed to do it in the first place!

I think the Xanadu will be a great shaft for the Grandista; I say that because my Xanadu is on a TRPX head which is not that great tho I think the shaft is excellent. If I wasn't loving the grandista on the crazy shaft; that would the combo I would go with!

Hmm, based on your info from this shaft switch,  I'm thinking if I should try the Xanadu in the RS-d before the COA California as the COA is a lower launching shaft.  It would look better with the RS-d though  :)
Title: Re: Grandista RS-D !!!
Post by: nobwas on July 24, 2018, 02:26:52 PM
Well I went with a 9 deg head this time based on my experience with the LS-001 and RS-001 in which I had 9.5 deg both times.
I felt they were a tiny bit high for my liking so I went down 0.5 deg.   Well it turns out this all Ti head does not launch as high as the previous models.   I guess that is expected since the previous models probably had lower CG by using carbon crown.    I think Xanadu will be awesome with the RS-D.

I went with 10, same as my RS-001. Really looking forward to getting it. I'd be using the rsd as default for my Grind Studio bag.

Have you tried changing the weights on the RS-d? Same gauge as jbeam or more like proceed weight shape or totally different?

No the Grandista weights are specific to Grandista.    Though I have not tried,  I believe the RS-001 , RS-F use the same screws as RS-D
but on the RS-D they colored them blue instead of the brass color they used to use.

My head came with an 8g and a 2g with the 8g on the heel side and 2g on the rear end.   I did switch it around in an effort to get a bit more launch.
But now with the Diamond Speeder ad launch is not a concern,  I might move them back to the default to see if I can lower the spin a bit. 





Title: Re: Grandista RS-D !!!
Post by: wmclarenf1 on July 24, 2018, 08:28:45 PM
Ok.  I've requested for a 198 gram head so I should be good. 
Title: Re: Grandista RS-D !!!
Post by: wmclarenf1 on August 08, 2018, 10:39:36 AM
Mt RS-D ready for the national day round tomorrow.
Title: Re: Grandista RS-D !!!
Post by: nobwas on August 08, 2018, 11:26:45 AM
Very nice!!   Have you hit it yet?   

Over the weekend I used RS-D one day and MA01D+R  the next day.   
I have both of these drivers tuned for my liking now,  I can play either one with the same level of confidence.
With the firm fairway conditions we have on our course now,   I had to back off to using 3W on some dog leg holes. 
The roll distance I get with the RS-D is just ridiculous!! 

 

Title: Re: Grandista RS-D !!!
Post by: wmclarenf1 on August 09, 2018, 07:24:42 AM
Played this for 10 driving holes today.  Courtesy of K. Not a bad ball at all given the price.

Playing another round sat with the RS-d.  Will post my thoughts then.  Need to move the light weight screw to the back.
Title: Re: Grandista RS-D !!!
Post by: freehb on August 10, 2018, 06:07:59 AM
Nice pants art...I liked the Kirkland ball as well...
Title: Re: Grandista RS-D !!!
Post by: wmclarenf1 on August 10, 2018, 08:40:12 AM
Nice pants art...I liked the Kirkland ball as well...

Thanks.  Bridgestone b 1000 camou range.
Title: Re: Grandista RS-D !!!
Post by: mauvanilla on August 10, 2018, 09:16:16 AM
Very curious to know... How do you like it?
Title: Re: Grandista RS-D !!!
Post by: wmclarenf1 on August 10, 2018, 09:18:25 AM
Very curious to know... How do you like it?

Will post after 2nd round tomorrow Mau. 
Title: Re: Grandista RS-D !!!
Post by: wmclarenf1 on August 11, 2018, 02:16:18 AM
So I played the second round today with the Grandista RS-D shafted with a Crime of Angel 5 shaft which is a low mid kick shaft.  I had the 8 gram weight at the back for Thursdayís round and given the launch, I moved that to the left today and the 2 gram weight to the back.

As you guessed, this head in 10* with this COA model has no launch issues for me.  Iím guessing my swing is very different to Nobís whose review iirc mentioned he finds it relatively lower launching.  For me, this head launches higher than the RS-001 and I had the same model shaft u=I that head as well.  I would call this a mid high launch combo but one with a penetrating trajectory which holds well into wind ie no ballooning.  So this launch view begs the question of spinÖ and hence roll.

I think this is a low spin head.  Not much side spin which is good as well.  There is roll for this combo and on this course, to get roll is good.  I would not say this is a road runner but that could change if I put in my COA California mid launch shaft which will lower the trajectory and apex and hence should give more roll.  Iíll be playing this at my other course next week where the fairways are much faster. Will wait till then to decide if I want to switch shafts.

So distanceÖ this is a damn driver after allÖmake no mistake, this combo is long.  In fact and this is on 2 different days in a row, on the same hole, Iíve hit my longest ever drives on that hole. Yes, wind assisted but Iíve never hit this distance ever wind assisted even with my other drivers.  Iím very impressed.. Average distance again, this appears to be very long.  I would say its up there with my Ito Xanadu combo for distance.

Dispersion.. ok.. this is where its different for me.  I rarely miss left.. Misses are push fades (not power fades ie slices). My misses with this are left.  Pull hooks.  That is not me. When I played the RS-001 with this same model shaft, I did not miss left or very rarely.  Now this could be that the weighting is set up as a draw biased head.  Weight screws at the heel and back, not on the toe.  Even when I had the 8gram weight at the back, my miss was left. Please donít; read this as a hook draw machine.  On the 12 driving holes on this course, I missed 3 fairways on Thursday and 3 today.  All left so fairway percentage is not all too shabby.  Maybe I just need to get used to the setup. Did not take it to the range before the rounds.

Looks.  Unlike the RS-001 which really has an obscure sole plate, the RS-d is very classic and classy looking.  At address, it looks very compact.  For me, this is a mid deep face height.

Feel and sound are very good as you would expect an SP700 face to be. That said, its not as soft feeling as the SP700 face on the Astro Tour VIII.  With the 8 gram weight at the back, it has a lowER twack than when the 8gram wiehht is at the heel.  I posted a video of the sound at impact earlier in this thread. That is very representative.

So, the RS-D head is for sure a keeper for me.  I may try the mid kicking COA Cali shaft but as is, if I can sort out the address position to help me manage the left misses, itís a great enough combo.  Again, 75% FW hit rate for me is not shabby at all.  Well doneÖ again.. Grandista!
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Post by: mauvanilla on August 11, 2018, 04:26:54 AM
Awesome! Thank you for the very detailed review.

It is indeed a great a driver; happy and glad that you like it. See if you can bring it for a round here in HK!
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Post by: nobwas on August 11, 2018, 07:24:47 AM
Very good review!!   Interesting about the launch you are getting on your 10 deg.
I donít know what my real loft is for the 9 deg head,  but perhaps could be lower than stated.   In any case,  very true about the draw bias thing,  I initially thought it will be horrible to get along with but like you say,  most shots end up on the fairway for me as well.  And itís longer than anything.  Iíve become somewhat of a SP700 driver junkie as of late and added Romaro Type R and Callaway Epic Forged to my collection.  Need to sort out the right shaft for those two heads,   but as of now,  Grandista is champ for overall distance.
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Post by: wmclarenf1 on August 19, 2018, 06:34:21 AM
Just played with this again today.  There's no doubt this is a very long combo... I do however still have to mind my left with this combo. 
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Post by: db2 on September 14, 2018, 09:16:15 PM
I have four or five range sessions and nine holes with my RS-D.  10*; 198 grams; 0.5-1.0* open.  It's shafted with an AD-BB 70s.  My swing speed averages 99.  I tend to hook the ball, as well as hit it low on the clubface.  Because I hit it thin a lot, I would prefer a driver to have a little too much loft as opposed to too little.  So far, I would say the RS-D plays true to loft.  I wouldn't want more than 10*.  If I tee it high and move it up in my stance I can hit it as I high as I'd ever want too.

I have hit this driver along side my GPOM 10* with Rogue Silver 70s, and T.388 10.5* with Kuro Kage Dual Core 60s.  As far as draw bias, I haven't seen it, but I need more time on course to be sure.  At the driving range, I have tried to hit draws and fades with it and don't find it easier to draw or harder to fade.  As far as launch, the RS-D launches lower than the GPOM but it's similar to the T.388. 

It's a great looking head with a very attractive shape and it feels great.  It is slightly less soft than the T.388 but it feels a bit more solid.  As far as sound, it's pretty good.  It's not a thwack but it's a metallic sound that reminds me of my TM 510 TP.  I should try hitting them together at the range.  Although they sound different, the RS-D is as quiet as the T.388 which makes it quieter than my Onoff 358, GPOM, and Epic.

In addition to the drivers listed above I also have a 2016 TM M2 with a Tensei Blue 60s.  In my stable of drivers the RS-D currently is in the number one slot.  I'm also carrying the GPOM because it's the Mr. Fixit of drivers--it's stupid easy to hit--and want to get a better idea of how the RS-D and GPOM compare in terms of total distance.  I actually find the RS-D pretty forgiving on mishits but the GPOM launches more easily.  Again, as someone who's tendency is to hit it thin, I find a little extra security in the GPOM's higher launch.  Also, I would like to see if I can use lead tape to turn it into a fade-biased, never-miss-it-left driver and switch the weights in the RS-D and turn it into a draw-biased, never-miss-it-right driver.  If so, I'd continue to carry both as I don't carry a three wood.
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Post by: wmclarenf1 on September 17, 2018, 05:39:41 AM
Good grief... it just occurred to me that I should start carrying 2 drivers as you described as I've played 13 clubs for the longest time.
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Post by: db2 on September 17, 2018, 08:38:18 AM
Why not?  Especially if you have two drivers that you like that have tendencies that are repeatable but different (and complementary): i.e. high/low; fade/draw.
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Post by: Nolixul on September 17, 2018, 10:01:07 AM
Yeah I often use a two driver set up but for a different reason. One low loft (7.5-8.5 degrees) and the other high (generally 12 degrees). Both with X or XX shafts.

There are a few courses I play that have several severe dogleg holes. You can cut the corners if you can launch very high (tall trees with dense forest) and also carry 270+. I can't get the distance with a fairway wood, but the high lofted driver is money. It works out a much safer play than trying to curve drivers or fws around the dogleg as the degree of bend required to is too great. On a couple of holes it even works out a safer play than trying to tap irons or hybrids in between fairway bunkers protecting the apex of the dogleg.