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General Category => US Golf Gear => Topic started by: mbbg on September 21, 2015, 10:04:01 PM

Title: M1 Driver
Post by: mbbg on September 21, 2015, 10:04:01 PM
Had a chance to hit and then play 9 with the new M1 from TM. I know most of you guys don't care much about US gear but I do think TM makes excellent drivers that seem to work well for me. I still have it, Fuji Pro 60S 460 9.5 set at standard with weight in middle and rear weight in N--actually hope to slip out tomorrow for another 9.

Sounds more muted than their typical drivers, very soft crunchy impact feel. I had my longest drive of the year on #1 and maybe the longest drive of my life on #9. Mid launch and flat flight with more roll than I am used to. I think the 358/XT out carries it but it's always been at the borderline of too high launching for my swing and I don't knock it down well. Might have to pick one up, really solid results and gives me something to change things up on windier days where the 358 tends to get pushed around some. On launch monitor the TM launches about ~12-13* with 2000 spin on good strikes and the ONOFF is ~15* and 23-2400. Course performance bears this out.
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Post by: hardboiled on September 21, 2015, 11:10:04 PM
The new PRGR Egg or this one.... Hhhmmmmm
Title: Re: M1 Driver
Post by: DaleUK on September 22, 2015, 01:18:25 AM
I wonder if there will be a Japan version ?
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Post by: Shacco on September 22, 2015, 01:50:22 AM
What would be the difference if there was a Japan version. Anyway, this M1 is the first TaylorMade driver in a long time that has my attention.
Title: Re: M1 Driver
Post by: DaleUK on September 22, 2015, 03:00:38 PM
What would be the difference if there was a Japan version. Anyway, this M1 is the first TaylorMade driver in a long time that has my attention.

And Mine....

I've been told it's 400?, does that sound rite??
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Post by: nobwas on September 22, 2015, 03:36:49 PM
I want one with no white paint on the crown,   
Hope they show more carbon weave or use black paint over the titanium section, a la Mizuno MP.001
I actually want to try one of these.
Title: Re: M1 Driver
Post by: mbbg on September 22, 2015, 04:41:07 PM
I wish they'd have done all carbon crown. Would have been awesome. It really doesn't look bad in person as it is though and it frames the ball very well. If I end up with one I might send it to continental golf and have them do something with the white part of crown.
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Post by: unclej on September 22, 2015, 06:11:07 PM
I wish they'd have done all carbon crown.  If I end up with one I might send it to continental golf and have them do something with the white part of crown.

You'll be defeating TM's purpose of making it recognizable for all to know what you're playing....
Title: Re: M1 Driver
Post by: mbbg on September 23, 2015, 09:56:45 PM
Trust me no one watching me playing it will be inspired to buy it
Title: Re: M1 Driver
Post by: DaleUK on September 24, 2015, 03:33:15 PM
What shaft options are there on this, I was told the GD Di is one!!
Title: Re: M1 Driver
Post by: mbbg on September 25, 2015, 09:54:08 PM
They have like 30 shaft options. I think DI is an upcharge shaft.

Anyone hitting this remember it's a 56* lie. I was missing it right a lot. Switched to upright lie setting on hosel and had one my best driving days of my life with it today.

Feels very solid and muted. Soft off face. Very vague on feedback. It's REALLY hard to tell where you hit this driver on the face. Might feel a little shaft twist but otherwise it felt great. Look on face and it's high toe. I keep wiping the face off every drive just so I can tell where the hell I hit it. I think it's quite forgiving, have had some shots that weren't the best that ended up in great shape.

Ultimately switching to the upright setting made a world of difference for me, which makes sense since I normally do better with upright clubs. I'm 6' tall with a shitty hands high impact position. Upright is good.
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Post by: JanKo on September 26, 2015, 02:52:29 AM
How much influence on flight has the weight forward / back position?

This driver really got my interest, if I'm switching, it will be the M1.
Title: Re: M1 Driver
Post by: DaleUK on October 12, 2015, 03:19:19 PM
Matt.

What made you go for the 460 head?
Title: Re: M1 Driver
Post by: mbbg on October 12, 2015, 10:28:04 PM
I played the JDM 430 SLDR most of 2014 and the R15 430 about half of this season.

I definitely liked the looks of the M1 430 better than the 460 and the feel was a bit better too. It really just boiled down to the fact I hit the 460 more consistently after hitting both heads quite a bit.

I think part of this is that the R15 460 looked closed to my eye. Hate that appearance. Don't feel like I can put a full swing on it. It wasn't really closed but it had a lot of bulge to the face that made it look that way to me. The 430 didn't have that. In the M1 they both sit square to open which just appeals to my eye at address.
Title: Re: M1 Driver
Post by: Blackman on October 13, 2015, 06:36:37 AM
I had a chance to hit the 460 and 430 on the launch monitor today.
The shaft was an Aldila Rogue in stiff (not a perfect shaft for me, but to limit the variables I decided to stick with it during the session).

Looks:
Not my cup of tea at all. The carbon part looks quite nice. The white parts are distracting. Even if you don't see it at address, the bottom side does look very busy.

Feel / Sound:
Ok for a composite head. Not too loud and medium soft. Very difficult to judge where you have hit the ball on the face. Might have been due to the shaft. To me there was a little difference between the two heads. Especially with the 460 I was not feeling it - very vague. The 430 was a little better, but still not what I would expect from a high end club.

Performance:
Good ball speed, but relatively high spin no matter what settings I have been trying. The 460 was 1000rpm worse, the best ones of the 430  700 rpm higher than my current gamer. Carry distance of the 430 has been shorter than with my gamer.

All in all:
the results could be very depending on the shaft. Distance on good hits is ok, but not great (how should it be different within the given restrictions for drivers). Even if the performance of the 430 would be on the same level than my gamer (which might be possible with a different shaft and dialling the whole thing in) the looks would be a show stopper too me.
Title: Re: M1 Driver
Post by: Shacco on October 13, 2015, 09:43:47 AM
Good information. Real world comparison. Would help though if you told us (or at least me) what your gamer is.  ;D
Title: Re: M1 Driver
Post by: Blackman on October 13, 2015, 10:23:31 AM
Epon Zero with Oban HB
Title: Re: M1 Driver
Post by: DaleUK on October 23, 2015, 12:30:53 PM
My 2p worth


...although I'm not near 100%

I love it ... I love it.... I LOVE It!!

This club is just Fantastic, Granted the FEEL isn't the worlds Best, or the Finish.. But it Flat out Perfoms...

The 2 "sliding Weights" really do work, Noticeably the Spin Track....

I've got mine fitted with the KuroKage Tini shaft

Distance....
As long as anything I've Hit and like I have Said, I'm only on steady Eddie swing....

Not been on the Monitors but I know my Track and its up there with the Best...

Very consistent in Distance and very Point and Shoot!!

 
Title: Re: M1 Driver
Post by: mbbg on October 23, 2015, 04:08:04 PM
Glad it's working for you big D. I've had really good luck with this club as well. Very flat low spin flight. I rather like the feel with the Fuji pro shaft when hit on the screws. TM love them or hate them makes really good drivers.
Title: Re: M1 Driver
Post by: Staxxx on October 24, 2015, 12:34:42 AM
Wow Justin Rose is really striping this driver miles in the HK Open !!! :)
I got to find a head for my Veylix Arcane shaft and this one is top of the list!
Title: Re: M1 Driver
Post by: wmclarenf1 on October 24, 2015, 01:25:15 AM
Wow Justin Rose is really striping this driver miles in the HK Open !!! :)
I got to find a head for my Veylix Arcane shaft and this one is top of the list!

Based on that logic, I hope your swing is like Justin's and you should use the same shaft as him... ;D
Title: Re: M1 Driver
Post by: Duffer19 on October 24, 2015, 05:57:52 AM
I would follow Rose tomorrow after my morning round (another course) and see how far he can hit the M1.  I had one hit last week and the result wasn't good since the shaft was too stiff for me.
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Post by: freehb on October 31, 2015, 08:11:43 PM
I hit this a couple times today.  It goes pretty good.  Not a fan of much besides the distance and forgiveness though but those are 2 pretty important things....
Title: Re: M1 Driver
Post by: Scratch2Plus on October 31, 2015, 11:54:52 PM
And it's a BARGAIN at $500 (can get them for $400ish) compared to JDM, and it also comes with a shaft! Haha...I'm still toying with mine. This next week should give me a good idea if it's staying or going.
Title: Re: M1 Driver
Post by: freehb on November 01, 2015, 11:40:15 AM
Usdm is never gonna stay permenent...but...they do make some good performing toys....it's kinda like the difference between an awesome fast food restaurant vs a fine meal at a 5 star restaurant...or the diff btw a 20$ bottle of wine versus a 100$ bottle of wine...the Callaway big Bertha Alpha is a great club, they all know how to make clubs that perform...they just have a shorterroduct lifecycle...
Title: Re: M1 Driver
Post by: Staxxx on November 01, 2015, 02:28:22 PM
I hit my Callaway BBB Alpha as long as anything, but eventually got $150 for it after 6 months! Bah ! Don't regret it as I got to have so much more fun with my JDM clubs subsequently. So saying, I am waiting for an M1 head to come up at a price that would make it fun to try. I know it would look so good with the pearly white Veylix Arcane shaft.
Title: Re: M1 Driver
Post by: DaleUK on November 01, 2015, 03:28:58 PM
End of the Day... If it works it works
Title: Re: M1 Driver
Post by: freehb on November 01, 2015, 05:19:49 PM
It's really about getting the right shaft for the combination of both your swing and the head...if that is accomplished, a lot of the heads produced can perform well...

From there it's all about tuning the feel and the sound so the strikes are pleasing.

Many Epon heads can be long w the right shaft and loft for certain golf swings...my 153 and 904d are as long as any or longer now that I have the shafts dialed in...the m1 is just as long as these for me w a draw bias.  I do like the adjustability because the swing changes sometimes and u can tune your ball flight....
Title: Re: M1 Driver
Post by: Mpuk on March 22, 2016, 09:12:54 PM
Man the M1 is a MONSTER.

I'm getting back into the swing of things having had a winter off so I took my trusty gamers to the local golf shop for a swing off. I had to pretend I was interested in buying a driver so I picked up a M1 9.5* with a Kuro Kage Silver Tini 70 X and smashed it.

I haven't bought anything off the shelf since I started playing, opting initially for the Tour Issue stuff before I found the JDM world.

It was close but the aforementioned M1 beat my Crazy 435ii and Basileus AAA 2015 70 X, not to mention my Jbeam 425 and Tour Issue Aldila Rogue 125 MSI Tour X.

You can't argue that the M1 from an adjustability perspective is king. The only downside is the feel, it didn't feel as good as even as the Jbeams I play, which is saying something.

Go out and try it, you will be pleasantly surprised
Title: Re: M1 Driver
Post by: Staxxx on March 22, 2016, 09:37:02 PM
Nice one MPUK!!
I too hit the M1 a mile. But at the end stuck with my trusty old Ryoma and Emillid.
I actually have an M1 430 cc head which I was planning on listing. Excellent condition of course. .....and in the spirit of hoing would so much prefer to trade than sell it outright :) Perhaps if someone has a 23* FW.....
Ash also uses the M1 as his gamer this season I believe.
..says something about this TM club.


Title: Re: M1 Driver
Post by: wardhr on March 22, 2016, 09:45:41 PM
very interesting comparisons between M1 and M2
http://www.golfwrx.com/364228/head-to-head-test-taylormade-m1-and-m2-drivers/
Title: Re: M1 Driver
Post by: mbbg on March 22, 2016, 09:54:40 PM
Yeah the M1 is really a good driver. The King LTD is very good as well. I seem to have mostly settled into JDM forgings but USDM driver and usually 3W.
Title: Re: M1 Driver
Post by: DaleUK on March 23, 2016, 07:09:33 AM
very interesting comparisons between M1 and M2
http://www.golfwrx.com/364228/head-to-head-test-taylormade-m1-and-m2-drivers/


Very Interesting Vid.

I guess Potentially the M1 could be Dailed in more to help/aid the Optimum Spin?
Title: Re: M1 Driver
Post by: akapur on March 23, 2016, 11:26:32 AM
I have had the M1 with a Rogue shaft since it came out in the fall of last year. All the comments are correct about it.
The Driver is long and very forgiving! As most here i usually prefer the feel and sound of JDM drivers, and over the years have had many long forgiving drivers. This M1 is easier to hit and longer then any I have tried. The sound and feel not so great but the performance is great.
As far as the adjustability , I was told that the Draw/ Fade portion should be adjusted according to where you strike the face with the ball and not if you are looking to correct a swing flaw. If you strike the ball closer to the toe you would move the slider in that direction and vice versa if you strike it closer to the heel. This gives you more weight behind where you make contact.
As for the spin best to start in the neutral position and using either a LM or watching ball flight correct for the spin.
For me the Draw/Fade weight is set to the heal and the spin is set to the lowest setting(slider all the way to the front)
Title: Re: M1 Driver
Post by: Mpuk on March 23, 2016, 12:25:27 PM
Hey Ash,

Thanks for your posting as the draw/fade weight makes perfect sense but it took someone to say for me to twig.

I still have your wedge but ashamed to say that I haven't had chance to take it for a spin despite having it so long.

Although, that is something I will be rectifying soon so thanks again for being one of the nicest guys on the planet :)

I am sold, I'm getting a M1 but now can't decide if I should spend double and get a Tour Issue one with exact loft and face angle.
Title: Re: M1 Driver
Post by: ian-500 on March 23, 2016, 01:23:38 PM
For those on the fence about an M1 or any usdm/adjustable driver in general, may I recommend the Bridgestone j715 B3. I like to think it's a cross between a jdm (looks/feel) and usdm (adjustability/r&d) driver. For some reason you can't buy this in the USA??
Review coming soon.
Title: Re: M1 Driver
Post by: DaleUK on March 23, 2016, 02:13:40 PM
Hey Ash,

Thanks for your posting as the draw/fade weight makes perfect sense but it took someone to say for me to twig.

I still have your wedge but ashamed to say that I haven't had chance to take it for a spin despite having it so long.

Although, that is something I will be rectifying soon so thanks again for being one of the nicest guys on the planet :)

I am sold, I'm getting a M1 but now can't decide if I should spend double and get a Tour Issue one with exact loft and face angle.

What's the Tour Edition?
Title: Re: M1 Driver
Post by: akapur on March 23, 2016, 02:18:39 PM
Hey Ash,

Thanks for your posting as the draw/fade weight makes perfect sense but it took someone to say for me to twig.

I still have your wedge but ashamed to say that I haven't had chance to take it for a spin despite having it so long.

Although, that is something I will be rectifying soon so thanks again for being one of the nicest guys on the planet :)

I am sold, I'm getting a M1 but now can't decide if I should spend double and get a Tour Issue one with exact loft and face angle.

What's the Tour Edition?
Dale
You can get a tour van or tour issue model. The loft is usually spec on and the FA tends to be open. Many of these are often sold on WRX
Title: Re: M1 Driver
Post by: DaleUK on March 23, 2016, 02:33:21 PM
Hey Ash,

Thanks for your posting as the draw/fade weight makes perfect sense but it took someone to say for me to twig.

I still have your wedge but ashamed to say that I haven't had chance to take it for a spin despite having it so long.

Although, that is something I will be rectifying soon so thanks again for being one of the nicest guys on the planet :)

I am sold, I'm getting a M1 but now can't decide if I should spend double and get a Tour Issue one with exact loft and face angle.

What's the Tour Edition?
Dale
You can get a tour van or tour issue model. The loft is usually spec on and the FA tends to be open. Many of these are often sold on WRX

Is it also true that the Face is hotter due to them been closer to the COR thing?
Title: Re: M1 Driver
Post by: Duffer19 on March 23, 2016, 02:41:51 PM
I have 3 Epons and 2 Ryoma Maxima with all the exotic shafts but now my gamer is the M1 with Evo 2.  It is not necessarily the longest or longer but easily the most forgiving hence much more playable then others.  When you are able to put the ball in play more often than the other drivers, be it longer or shorter, the game is more enjoyable.  It is also by far the cheapest driver I own now.
Title: Re: M1 Driver
Post by: Mpuk on March 23, 2016, 02:56:32 PM
Dale,

If you want a hot face then you are better going with the off the shelf as the quality control isn't as exact so you may get one that goes beyond allowed limits. Tour Issue will mean it meets the the laws of golf.

You have to watch the tour stuff though as you generally get the stuff the pro's don't want, generally way open face angles.

Title: Re: M1 Driver
Post by: DaleUK on March 23, 2016, 03:38:33 PM
Dale,

If you want a hot face then you are better going with the off the shelf as the quality control isn't as exact so you may get one that goes beyond allowed limits. Tour Issue will mean it meets the the laws of golf.

You have to watch the tour stuff though as you generally get the stuff the pro's don't want, generally way open face angles.

Ahhhh.
Off the shelf it is then!

Now what shaft ??
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Post by: akapur on March 23, 2016, 04:03:35 PM
Dale,

If you want a hot face then you are better going with the off the shelf as the quality control isn't as exact so you may get one that goes beyond allowed limits. Tour Issue will mean it meets the the laws of golf.

You have to watch the tour stuff though as you generally get the stuff the pro's don't want, generally way open face angles.

Ahhhh.
Off the shelf it is then!

Now what shaft ??

Evo 2?
Title: Re: M1 Driver
Post by: ian-500 on March 23, 2016, 04:19:39 PM
Dale did you get this brand new? As far as I'm aware, you could get the Speeder 661 as a no cost upgrade.
Title: Re: M1 Driver
Post by: DaleUK on March 23, 2016, 04:25:00 PM
Dale,

If you want a hot face then you are better going with the off the shelf as the quality control isn't as exact so you may get one that goes beyond allowed limits. Tour Issue will mean it meets the the laws of golf.

You have to watch the tour stuff though as you generally get the stuff the pro's don't want, generally way open face angles.

Ahhhh.
Off the shelf it is then!

Now what shaft ??

Evo 2?

Got the Evo 2 TS in the Kamui, it works well!

Might get one for the M1
Title: Re: M1 Driver
Post by: DaleUK on March 23, 2016, 04:25:34 PM
Dale did you get this brand new? As far as I'm aware, you could get the Speeder 661 as a no cost upgrade.

Didn't like the " normal" Speeder 661
Title: Re: M1 Driver
Post by: ian-500 on March 23, 2016, 04:58:03 PM
The normal one being the white one, or the blue 'Evolution', the black 'Evolution Tour Spec' or the orange/gold 'Evolution II'.
Title: Re: M1 Driver
Post by: DaleUK on March 23, 2016, 08:57:55 PM
White.
Title: Re: M1 Driver
Post by: Staxxx on March 25, 2016, 12:49:26 AM
All this talk is making me want to pull my M1 head from the BST and try it again..... I just have so many drivers !! Bah!!
Any thoughts of this going into a 7D standard shaft? Or is it heresy?!! LOL
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Post by: hardboiled on March 25, 2016, 03:45:14 AM
All this talk is making me want to pull my M1 head from the BST and try it again..... I just have so many drivers !! Bah!!
Any thoughts of this going into a 7D standard shaft? Or is it heresy?!! LOL


That would be an awesome combo. Best of both JDM and USDM worlds. I've got a AAA in mine and it goes like the clappers
Title: Re: M1 Driver
Post by: Mpuk on March 25, 2016, 06:46:07 AM
For those that are going to try the M1, I would suggest you purchase the Tour Issue Metal ferrule. It makes me cringe putting my AAA 2015 into the plastic one
Title: Re: M1 Driver
Post by: DaleUK on March 25, 2016, 10:22:49 AM
I'm off to the range ... Cheap , nasty ferrule and all.

460cc M1 vs Kamui .. What ever cc
Title: Re: M1 Driver
Post by: DaleUK on March 25, 2016, 12:56:35 PM
I'm not sure there's a better Deiver out, right now... The M1 is just very good

Kamui is out for tomorrow and M1 in?!
Title: Re: M1 Driver
Post by: Staxxx on March 25, 2016, 04:06:41 PM
I'm being dissuaded from putting the M1 in my 7D shaft by all and sundry. :(
So...if anyone wants to try this monster driver, I have one (430 cc, 9.5*, free new adapter) available for sale again ...
Will list it properly in the BST.
Thanks.
Title: Re: M1 Driver
Post by: Mpuk on March 25, 2016, 04:29:54 PM
I tried the 430 and my spin was barely over 1k

The ball fell out of the air after 180 yards
Title: Re: M1 Driver
Post by: DaleUK on March 25, 2016, 04:31:37 PM
I tried the 430 and my spin was barely over 1k

The ball fell out of the air after 180 yards

I've had both in the bag, and although the 460 looks like a Wok on a golf shaft it is by far the better of the 2
Title: Re: M1 Driver
Post by: Staxxx on March 25, 2016, 05:10:19 PM
OK....hmmm. There goes my chances of selling it :))  No point listing this then.......
Title: Re: M1 Driver
Post by: akapur on March 25, 2016, 05:35:41 PM
I have both as well. The 460 is easier to hit and  has more spin. The length has been better with the 430 for me.
Title: Re: M1 Driver
Post by: Mpuk on March 25, 2016, 08:55:53 PM
OK....hmmm. There goes my chances of selling it :))  No point listing this then.......
im a freaky low spin player. Most would love the 430 to help them drop their spin so it's really horses for courses and if anything, confirmation of its low spin traits should actually help you sell it
Title: Re: M1 Driver
Post by: DaleUK on April 02, 2016, 04:03:53 PM
Did you end up Buying one Matt?
Title: Re: M1 Driver
Post by: Mpuk on April 04, 2016, 10:53:16 PM
It's on the list but first it's shafting up my 24* Epon 901 that will be bent 1* weak to play as my 4 iron. Then it's shafting up those Golds wedges you kindly sourced for me with the Modus 3 125 Wedge.

Then it's the M1 ;)
Title: Re: M1 Driver
Post by: DaleUK on April 05, 2016, 01:04:40 AM
It's on the list but first it's shafting up my 24* Epon 901 that will be bent 1* weak to play as my 4 iron. Then it's shafting up those Golds wedges you kindly sourced for me with the Modus 3 125 Wedge.

Then it's the M1 ;)


Let me know how those wedges Turn out