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General Category => Japanese Golf Gear => Topic started by: 100100 on July 17, 2014, 09:52:38 AM

Title: Grandista?
Post by: 100100 on July 17, 2014, 09:52:38 AM
This is one for wmclarenf1, a driver with its complete spec on the sole. Anyone played it?
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Title: Re: Grandista?
Post by: Duffer19 on July 17, 2014, 10:44:30 AM
If WMC plays this, I am sure he would name it Darth Vader. 
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Post by: Sgt Squirts on July 17, 2014, 12:52:36 PM
Looks like that photo was taken at 30,000 feet above the Pacific, top that Chris!

Let me take a stab at creating some hype that will have everyone frothing at the mouth to spend $1500 on this piece.

Grandista is a newer golf gear company in Japan that puts an emphasis on the highest quality materials, ultimate feel and control, classic looks, and user prestige.  The new Grandista driver is a technological marvel, utilizing two "Super Impact Tubes™" on the sole that can be loaded with small explosive "Boom Pods™" (sold separately in the Pro Shop) that detonate at impact to create extreme distance along with the pleasing sounds of small arms fire.  The patent pending cup face design is double cold press forged from Dat 69 for a soft, explosive feel, then precision brazed by a man with tiny hands for the ultimate in consistency.  As you may have noticed, it has the unique feature of having the entire spec sheet printed right on the bottom, so the anal retentive golfer will know his club right down to the last meaningless detail.  The crown of the club incorporates a classy ion plating and an easy-to-read user guide to help remind the improving golfer to swing the club correctly. 

Recently I was able to meet with the President and design team when they took me out for a few hundred dollars worth of exotic sushi and drinks in exchange for promoting their products through the Pro Shop.  Their chief designer, Hideki "Dick" Gozinya-san explained to me the revolutionary center of gravity design they put into this new club.  He explained it in Japanese (which I don't understand 100%) but I believe he said that the club head senses your swing speed and club path and automatically adjusts the CG to the optimum location for big carry and run using a sophisticated series of cats' eye marbles and a spring from a ball point pen. 

So how does this new beast play?  Recently I was able to spend some time with it in comparison to my current gamer--the last driver that I demo'd and declared the Best Driver Ever.  I have it shafted with my new favorite shaft, the $107,000 Sixteen Candles shaft in a SR flex playing at 46".  At address, the club head is both compact for workability for the better player while being large to instill confidence in the higher handicappers.  I didn't find the user guide printed on the crown to be distracting at all at address, unless I looked at the club. 

During my backswing I did hear some electronic calculation noises reminiscent of "KITT" from the 80's classic television show "Knight Rider."  But on the downswing I did not hear any annoying movement from the marble track, just the feel of incredible speed and then the explosive impact.  I liked the sound of detonation at impact whilst using the Boom Pods, but an elderly gent I was paired with for my round literally shat himself after my first drive, so keep that in mind when playing with new people.  I have now played two rounds and hit it at the range twice, so I can honestly say that I feel this is the newest Best Driver Ever, and fits a variety of handicaps from Pro down to beginner. 

Yes, it is mighty expensive, but hey, you're worth it.  Right?  These are now on sale in the Pro Shop with the stock Bangzoo Animals shaft, but of course we can build them with any high end shaft in Japan.
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Post by: DaleUK on July 17, 2014, 03:57:18 PM
Looks like that photo was taken at 30,000 feet above the Pacific, top that Chris!

Let me take a stab at creating some hype that will have everyone frothing at the mouth to spend $1500 on this piece.

Grandista is a newer golf gear company in Japan that puts an emphasis on the highest quality materials, ultimate feel and control, classic looks, and user prestige.  The new Grandista driver is a technological marvel, utilizing two "Super Impact Tubes™" on the sole that can be loaded with small explosive "Boom Pods™" (sold separately in the Pro Shop) that detonate at impact to create extreme distance along with the pleasing sounds of small arms fire.  The patent pending cup face design is double cold press forged from Dat 69 for a soft, explosive feel, then precision brazed by a man with tiny hands for the ultimate in consistency.  As you may have noticed, it has the unique feature of having the entire spec sheet printed right on the bottom, so the anal retentive golfer will know his club right down to the last meaningless detail.  The crown of the club incorporates a classy ion plating and an easy-to-read user guide to help remind the improving golfer to swing the club correctly. 

Recently I was able to meet with the President and design team when they took me out for a few hundred dollars worth of exotic sushi and drinks in exchange for promoting their products through the Pro Shop.  Their chief designer, Hideki "Dick" Gozinya-san explained to me the revolutionary center of gravity design they put into this new club.  He explained it in Japanese (which I don't understand 100%) but I believe he said that the club head senses your swing speed and club path and automatically adjusts the CG to the optimum location for big carry and run using a sophisticated series of cats' eye marbles and a spring from a ball point pen. 

So how does this new beast play?  Recently I was able to spend some time with it in comparison to my current gamer--the last driver that I demo'd and declared the Best Driver Ever.  I have it shafted with my new favorite shaft, the $107,000 Sixteen Candles shaft in a SR flex playing at 46".  At address, the club head is both compact for workability for the better player while being large to instill confidence in the higher handicappers.  I didn't find the user guide printed on the crown to be distracting at all at address, unless I looked at the club. 

During my backswing I did hear some electronic calculation noises reminiscent of "KITT" from the 80's classic television show "Knight Rider."  But on the downswing I did not hear any annoying movement from the marble track, just the feel of incredible speed and then the explosive impact.  I liked the sound of detonation at impact whilst using the Boom Pods, but an elderly gent I was paired with for my round literally shat himself after my first drive, so keep that in mind when playing with new people.  I have now played two rounds and hit it at the range twice, so I can honestly say that I feel this is the newest Best Driver Ever, and fits a variety of handicaps from Pro down to beginner. 

Yes, it is mighty expensive, but hey, you're worth it.  Right?  These are now on sale in the Pro Shop with the stock Bangzoo Animals shaft, but of course we can build them with any high end shaft in Japan.
F'in love it...

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Post by: DaleUK on July 17, 2014, 04:01:52 PM
No really I think this is the best post period...I'm still laughing. ..
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Post by: RhodyGolf on July 17, 2014, 05:12:59 PM
I understood that Dick was originally thinking of raising capital for his designs stateside but realized he could not find suitably small hands to do the brazing, caucasians are too damn big, so he reverted back to the Japanese market.

On that note I understood the ports on the underside of the head were also designed as exhaust outlets to better control the explosion and effectively accelerate the head to increase face contact time of the ball resulting in >180 smash factors and softer feel.
Title: Re: Grandista?
Post by: wmclarenf1 on July 17, 2014, 06:05:48 PM
If WMC plays this, I am sure he would name it Darth Vader. 
This is one for wmclarenf1, a driver with its complete spec on the sole. Anyone played it?
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Lol...if I played three luck sky dream jump and dance with dragon clubs, this actually sounds very normal. 
Title: Re: Grandista?
Post by: Duffer19 on July 17, 2014, 08:10:13 PM
Sgt., you have my vote for post of the year but unfortunately you would be banned from the other site for being too funny. 
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Post by: wmclarenf1 on July 18, 2014, 12:31:10 AM
Sgt., you have my vote for post of the year but unfortunately you would be banned from the other site for being too funny.

Most definitely.. sarcastic humour will definitely be deemed negative.  Tsk tsk squirt... come on now... be nice and don;t speak your mind nor ask any questions.  Just believe what I tell you as I know what is good and right for you. >:( :-X :D
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Post by: ian-500 on July 18, 2014, 06:38:51 AM
Looks like that photo was taken at 30,000 feet above the Pacific, top that Chris!

Let me take a stab at creating some hype that will have everyone frothing at the mouth to spend $1500 on this piece.

Grandista is a newer golf gear company in Japan that puts an emphasis on the highest quality materials, ultimate feel and control, classic looks, and user prestige.  The new Grandista driver is a technological marvel, utilizing two "Super Impact Tubes™" on the sole that can be loaded with small explosive "Boom Pods™" (sold separately in the Pro Shop) that detonate at impact to create extreme distance along with the pleasing sounds of small arms fire.  The patent pending cup face design is double cold press forged from Dat 69 for a soft, explosive feel, then precision brazed by a man with tiny hands for the ultimate in consistency.  As you may have noticed, it has the unique feature of having the entire spec sheet printed right on the bottom, so the anal retentive golfer will know his club right down to the last meaningless detail.  The crown of the club incorporates a classy ion plating and an easy-to-read user guide to help remind the improving golfer to swing the club correctly. 

Recently I was able to meet with the President and design team when they took me out for a few hundred dollars worth of exotic sushi and drinks in exchange for promoting their products through the Pro Shop.  Their chief designer, Hideki "Dick" Gozinya-san explained to me the revolutionary center of gravity design they put into this new club.  He explained it in Japanese (which I don't understand 100%) but I believe he said that the club head senses your swing speed and club path and automatically adjusts the CG to the optimum location for big carry and run using a sophisticated series of cats' eye marbles and a spring from a ball point pen. 

So how does this new beast play?  Recently I was able to spend some time with it in comparison to my current gamer--the last driver that I demo'd and declared the Best Driver Ever.  I have it shafted with my new favorite shaft, the $107,000 Sixteen Candles shaft in a SR flex playing at 46".  At address, the club head is both compact for workability for the better player while being large to instill confidence in the higher handicappers.  I didn't find the user guide printed on the crown to be distracting at all at address, unless I looked at the club. 

During my backswing I did hear some electronic calculation noises reminiscent of "KITT" from the 80's classic television show "Knight Rider."  But on the downswing I did not hear any annoying movement from the marble track, just the feel of incredible speed and then the explosive impact.  I liked the sound of detonation at impact whilst using the Boom Pods, but an elderly gent I was paired with for my round literally shat himself after my first drive, so keep that in mind when playing with new people.  I have now played two rounds and hit it at the range twice, so I can honestly say that I feel this is the newest Best Driver Ever, and fits a variety of handicaps from Pro down to beginner. 

Yes, it is mighty expensive, but hey, you're worth it.  Right?  These are now on sale in the Pro Shop with the stock Bangzoo Animals shaft, but of course we can build them with any high end shaft in Japan.

Hahahahahahaha great post Mr Squirty Sir. I'm so hot and bored in this office I'm gonna read it again............
Title: Re: Grandista?
Post by: Miuramaniac on July 18, 2014, 07:58:12 AM
Hilarious.

But was it designed for distance AND control?
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Post by: Sgt Squirts on July 18, 2014, 08:36:43 AM
Distance, control, and great feel and looks. With premium materials. 
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Post by: unclej on July 22, 2014, 01:45:03 AM
OMG...

I rarely read something and laugh out loud but this is some seriously funny shit.
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Post by: spoon on July 22, 2014, 02:23:26 AM
sounds like a pimps ride!
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Post by: tsupo67 on July 22, 2014, 02:52:54 AM
 fkkn awsome.
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Post by: MBBG on July 22, 2014, 06:59:49 PM
I understood that Dick was originally thinking of raising capital for his designs stateside but realized he could not find suitably small hands to do the brazing, caucasians are too damn big, so he reverted back to the Japanese market.

On that note I understood the ports on the underside of the head were also designed as exhaust outlets to better control the explosion and effectively accelerate the head to increase face contact time of the ball resulting in >180 smash factors and softer feel.

Yes you're absolutely right. This is a driver whose technology is far ahead of its time and will be revered amongst JDM enthusiasts for generations to come.

Honestly I'm surprised they're not a "Limited Edition 500 Piece" release that somehow 1500 people own!
Title: Re: Grandista?
Post by: freehb on July 27, 2014, 03:22:00 PM
How did I miss this!?!  Squirts Rules!  Confidence is very sexy...don't u think!!??
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Post by: freehb on July 08, 2015, 08:23:55 PM
So squirts post sold me but does anyone have experience with this driver?
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Post by: wmclarenf1 on July 08, 2015, 09:56:27 PM
I was just looking at this the other day and nearly bought one.  dat 55 face too.
Title: Re: Grandista?
Post by: nobwas on July 09, 2015, 01:40:20 AM
They came out with an SP700 faced version as well and I bought one of these to pair with my 7D shaft.   Won't have the driver until mid August.   Based on my past experience,  I somehow just don't get along  DAT 55G faced drivers so went with the SP700.     Was getting very good numbers on trackman at my fitting at 7D using a Diamana B 60 shaft.    best one that day was 292 yards with 2150 rpm  back spin.    For a sea level callibration trackman that is really good for me.    Might be too soon to tell but this head might be a JBeam slayer!  :)  shape at address is really nice.    Many have said it is reminiscent of  older Yamaha heads.   Quite forgiving from my limited experience as well.
Feel at impact is soft.  Sound is well controlled but loud enough for making it feel hot.
I personally would have prefered a cleaner sole.   Quality of finish is top notch.   

I compared this head against my AF153 gamer and decided to go with the Grandista for my 7D pairing.  I do love my Epon but the 153 is a bit outdated when it comes to distance performance and is a bit spinny relative to more recent  heads.   I felt as I was not getting the most distance out of my swing.   so I have high hopes for this Grandista head.
I mean I'm spending over 2Gs for a single club!! It better perform siginicantly better than anything I tried in the past.
If I can top the numbers I saw with the Diamana shaft by another 15 yards or so while getting better dispersion,   I would be a happy camper.

One thing I was not impressed about was the head cover.  bright blue vinyl and loud design.

The designer Yoshida san replied to my email personally prior to my purchase which I thought was pretty cool.
He told me that the only differences between the dat55 version and sp700 version were face color and  feel at impact.
He also said performance figures should be identical as they measure COR on all heads to be within their allowed tolerance.

Will report back once I have the driver.
Title: Re: Grandista?
Post by: tokidoki1986 on July 09, 2015, 05:17:49 AM
Was looking at it earlier this week and wonder if someone going to start topic on this driver
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Post by: TFL07670 on July 09, 2015, 09:44:52 AM
very interesting and great write up squirts. so this boom pods thing - is it a one-time thing or something recurring once you buy it and plug it in?
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Post by: gocchin on July 09, 2015, 11:22:15 PM
Looks like that photo was taken at 30,000 feet above the Pacific, top that Chris!

Let me take a stab at creating some hype that will have everyone frothing at the mouth to spend $1500 on this piece.

Grandista is a newer golf gear company in Japan that puts an emphasis on the highest quality materials, ultimate feel and control, classic looks, and user prestige.  The new Grandista driver is a technological marvel, utilizing two "Super Impact Tubes™" on the sole that can be loaded with small explosive "Boom Pods™" (sold separately in the Pro Shop) that detonate at impact to create extreme distance along with the pleasing sounds of small arms fire.  The patent pending cup face design is double cold press forged from Dat 69 for a soft, explosive feel, then precision brazed by a man with tiny hands for the ultimate in consistency.  As you may have noticed, it has the unique feature of having the entire spec sheet printed right on the bottom, so the anal retentive golfer will know his club right down to the last meaningless detail.  The crown of the club incorporates a classy ion plating and an easy-to-read user guide to help remind the improving golfer to swing the club correctly. 

Recently I was able to meet with the President and design team when they took me out for a few hundred dollars worth of exotic sushi and drinks in exchange for promoting their products through the Pro Shop.  Their chief designer, Hideki "Dick" Gozinya-san explained to me the revolutionary center of gravity design they put into this new club.  He explained it in Japanese (which I don't understand 100%) but I believe he said that the club head senses your swing speed and club path and automatically adjusts the CG to the optimum location for big carry and run using a sophisticated series of cats' eye marbles and a spring from a ball point pen. 

So how does this new beast play?  Recently I was able to spend some time with it in comparison to my current gamer--the last driver that I demo'd and declared the Best Driver Ever.  I have it shafted with my new favorite shaft, the $107,000 Sixteen Candles shaft in a SR flex playing at 46".  At address, the club head is both compact for workability for the better player while being large to instill confidence in the higher handicappers.  I didn't find the user guide printed on the crown to be distracting at all at address, unless I looked at the club. 

During my backswing I did hear some electronic calculation noises reminiscent of "KITT" from the 80's classic television show "Knight Rider."  But on the downswing I did not hear any annoying movement from the marble track, just the feel of incredible speed and then the explosive impact.  I liked the sound of detonation at impact whilst using the Boom Pods, but an elderly gent I was paired with for my round literally shat himself after my first drive, so keep that in mind when playing with new people.  I have now played two rounds and hit it at the range twice, so I can honestly say that I feel this is the newest Best Driver Ever, and fits a variety of handicaps from Pro down to beginner. 

Yes, it is mighty expensive, but hey, you're worth it.  Right?  These are now on sale in the Pro Shop with the stock Bangzoo Animals shaft, but of course we can build them with any high end shaft in Japan.

Jesus... Am I guilty for writing like that in the past?  Or that's not me right cause I do understand Japanese....  ;D :P
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Post by: MBBG on July 09, 2015, 11:46:36 PM
Just re-read that post for the first time in a long time and was literally LOL at several points.

I don't think it's a mockery of you T, although the the proper use of commas and lack of run-on sentences might make it seem so.
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Post by: gocchin on July 09, 2015, 11:56:25 PM
Just re-read that post for the first time in a long time and was literally LOL at several points.

I don't think it's a mockery of you T, although the the proper use of commas and lack of run-on sentences might make it seem so.

Yes it is actually quite well written.  ;D
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Post by: Staxxx on July 10, 2015, 02:34:34 AM
T, what do you think of this driver, please? Have you tried it perhaps?
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Post by: wmclarenf1 on July 10, 2015, 10:23:28 AM
I just found out this has a carbon composite crown like Cleveland or Cally had a longgggg time ago.  Not sure if I want that.
Title: Re: Grandista?
Post by: nobwas on July 10, 2015, 11:45:54 AM
What's wrong with Carbon Composite crowned heads?
Cally still uses carbon composite crowns ( I guess they call it "forged composite" these days )  with their 815 Big Bertha line.   




Title: Re: Grandista?
Post by: gocchin on July 10, 2015, 11:58:29 AM
The legendary first gen egg also used carbon composite.

It isn't necessarily a bad thing though for some they may not like the way using CC can alter sound and feel.

In the case of the Grandista, its not a complete composite crown but more of an insert in the crown.

Grandista is not a big brand and very much one of those smaller boutique brands targeted more at maniac/hardcore types.

The founder wanted to make a driver "that satisfied himself" - so he said, thus he made the Grandista.

It's borderline conforming right at 257CT and from the looks of the specs, the CG is rather deep though not so low.

It's certainly an interesting design at least visually.

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Post by: draven on July 10, 2015, 11:59:33 AM
LOL! I nominate squirts homage for greatest post I've ever read on any forum... is it wrong that I really, really want this club now?  ;D
Title: Re: Grandista?
Post by: nobwas on July 10, 2015, 12:50:09 PM
The legendary first gen egg also used carbon composite.

It isn't necessarily a bad thing though for some they may not like the way using CC can alter sound and feel.

In the case of the Grandista, its not a complete composite crown but more of an insert in the crown.

Grandista is not a big brand and very much one of those smaller boutique brands targeted more at maniac/hardcore types.

The founder wanted to make a driver "that satisfied himself" - so he said, thus he made the Grandista.

It's borderline conforming right at 257CT and from the looks of the specs, the CG is rather deep though not so low.

It's certainly an interesting design at least visually.

I read somewhere that there are only a couple of manufacturers left who can do Carbon Composite crowned heads in Japan.   Perhaps it is the same Endo guys who did the Yonex Ezone line of woods? 

Comparing trajectory against my AF153 which is a higher launching head,  Grandista was a tad lower but still on the higher side which is consistent with the low CG design.   Grandista is a low spinning head as I was consistently getting low 2000's on the LM.

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Post by: MBBG on July 10, 2015, 01:26:54 PM
Composite crown heads is actually a really good technology to shift weight elsewhere. Many of the earlier cally composite crowns were renowned for their great feel. Never hit any of them so can't speak personally just have seen that a lot over the years. The sound and feel has more to do with face material, CG location, and inherent dampening of the head itself than the material used to make the crown. I wouldn't be afraid of it at all and in fact would consider it a positive if done well.

If 7 dreamers made the crown I'd probably pay an extra $500 for it. 😁
Title: Re: Grandista?
Post by: wmclarenf1 on July 10, 2015, 08:44:05 PM
What's wrong with Carbon Composite crowned heads?
Cally still uses carbon composite crowns ( I guess they call it "forged composite" these days )  with their 815 Big Bertha line.

Nothing.  It's just a personal preference or in this case, a dislike.  Just a feel and sound thing to me.
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Post by: freehb on July 10, 2015, 09:13:48 PM
LOL! I nominate squirts homage for greatest post I've ever read on any forum... is it wrong that I really, really want this club now?  ;D

Haha, no...I kinda want it as well...
Title: Re: Grandista?
Post by: gocchin on July 11, 2015, 12:42:04 AM
Composite crown heads is actually a really good technology to shift weight elsewhere. Many of the earlier cally composite crowns were renowned for their great feel. Never hit any of them so can't speak personally just have seen that a lot over the years. The sound and feel has more to do with face material, CG location, and inherent dampening of the head itself than the material used to make the crown. I wouldn't be afraid of it at all and in fact would consider it a positive if done well.

If 7 dreamers made the crown I'd probably pay an extra $500 for it. 😁

That is the primary purpose of the carbon composite crown... to shift weight since the crown is so light. Also I would say the sound and feel have very much to do with the carbon composite crown as that is exactly what ends up dampening the impact feel and sound. The carbon crown has more flex to it thus absorbing much of any metallic impact sound and harsher feel making it more of a thud or thowck. Take any head and swap the Ti crown for a CC one and you will definitely get a different sound and feel. 

Making a CC crown requires many many layers of finely compacted carbon plys so definitely not all crowns are created equally, both material wise and manufacturing wise.

It's definitely personal for the feel and sound, I have no issues as the performance gains are there, at least for the heads I have used and tried. Plus its kinda cool. :)
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Post by: ian-500 on July 11, 2015, 03:09:24 AM
I've gamed two carbon comp heads. Callaway ERC Fusion and my latest gamer, a PRGR Duo Compression. Sound is very muted and both felt/feel as good as any Epon for me. For these reasons I want to eventually try the PRGR Black which is also a carbon comp head.
Title: Re: Grandista?
Post by: freehb on July 11, 2015, 09:59:33 PM
Looks like that photo was taken at 30,000 feet above the Pacific, top that Chris!

Let me take a stab at creating some hype that will have everyone frothing at the mouth to spend $1500 on this piece.

Grandista is a newer golf gear company in Japan that puts an emphasis on the highest quality materials, ultimate feel and control, classic looks, and user prestige.  The new Grandista driver is a technological marvel, utilizing two "Super Impact Tubes™" on the sole that can be loaded with small explosive "Boom Pods™" (sold separately in the Pro Shop) that detonate at impact to create extreme distance along with the pleasing sounds of small arms fire.  The patent pending cup face design is double cold press forged from Dat 69 for a soft, explosive feel, then precision brazed by a man with tiny hands for the ultimate in consistency.  As you may have noticed, it has the unique feature of having the entire spec sheet printed right on the bottom, so the anal retentive golfer will know his club right down to the last meaningless detail.  The crown of the club incorporates a classy ion plating and an easy-to-read user guide to help remind the improving golfer to swing the club correctly. 

Recently I was able to meet with the President and design team when they took me out for a few hundred dollars worth of exotic sushi and drinks in exchange for promoting their products through the Pro Shop.  Their chief designer, Hideki "Dick" Gozinya-san explained to me the revolutionary center of gravity design they put into this new club.  He explained it in Japanese (which I don't understand 100%) but I believe he said that the club head senses your swing speed and club path and automatically adjusts the CG to the optimum location for big carry and run using a sophisticated series of cats' eye marbles and a spring from a ball point pen. 

So how does this new beast play?  Recently I was able to spend some time with it in comparison to my current gamer--the last driver that I demo'd and declared the Best Driver Ever.  I have it shafted with my new favorite shaft, the $107,000 Sixteen Candles shaft in a SR flex playing at 46".  At address, the club head is both compact for workability for the better player while being large to instill confidence in the higher handicappers.  I didn't find the user guide printed on the crown to be distracting at all at address, unless I looked at the club. 

During my backswing I did hear some electronic calculation noises reminiscent of "KITT" from the 80's classic television show "Knight Rider."  But on the downswing I did not hear any annoying movement from the marble track, just the feel of incredible speed and then the explosive impact.  I liked the sound of detonation at impact whilst using the Boom Pods, but an elderly gent I was paired with for my round literally shat himself after my first drive, so keep that in mind when playing with new people.  I have now played two rounds and hit it at the range twice, so I can honestly say that I feel this is the newest Best Driver Ever, and fits a variety of handicaps from Pro down to beginner. 

Yes, it is mighty expensive, but hey, you're worth it.  Right?  These are now on sale in the Pro Shop with the stock Bangzoo Animals shaft, but of course we can build them with any high end shaft in Japan.
For the record, I have no resentment of tsg...not making any kind of a statement or comment about those who do
Jesus... Am I guilty for writing like that in the past?  Or that's not me right cause I do understand Japanese....  ;D :P

T, you have always been the voice of reason in an otherwise unreasonable world.  I've never felt anything but educated and helped by anything you've told me or posts of yours that I've read...

For the record, I have no resentment of tsg...not making any kind of a statement or comment about those who do...I see all sides and am equally capable of laughing at, with or around all of them...

The culture of this site was summed up by a newcomer..."general smart assery" ...that's the main reason I like it....
Title: Re: Grandista?
Post by: Duffer19 on July 11, 2015, 10:18:18 PM
That's a smart (ass) comment, Free.
Title: Re: Grandista?
Post by: gocchin on July 12, 2015, 08:13:55 AM
Looks like that photo was taken at 30,000 feet above the Pacific, top that Chris!

Let me take a stab at creating some hype that will have everyone frothing at the mouth to spend $1500 on this piece.

Grandista is a newer golf gear company in Japan that puts an emphasis on the highest quality materials, ultimate feel and control, classic looks, and user prestige.  The new Grandista driver is a technological marvel, utilizing two "Super Impact Tubes™" on the sole that can be loaded with small explosive "Boom Pods™" (sold separately in the Pro Shop) that detonate at impact to create extreme distance along with the pleasing sounds of small arms fire.  The patent pending cup face design is double cold press forged from Dat 69 for a soft, explosive feel, then precision brazed by a man with tiny hands for the ultimate in consistency.  As you may have noticed, it has the unique feature of having the entire spec sheet printed right on the bottom, so the anal retentive golfer will know his club right down to the last meaningless detail.  The crown of the club incorporates a classy ion plating and an easy-to-read user guide to help remind the improving golfer to swing the club correctly. 

Recently I was able to meet with the President and design team when they took me out for a few hundred dollars worth of exotic sushi and drinks in exchange for promoting their products through the Pro Shop.  Their chief designer, Hideki "Dick" Gozinya-san explained to me the revolutionary center of gravity design they put into this new club.  He explained it in Japanese (which I don't understand 100%) but I believe he said that the club head senses your swing speed and club path and automatically adjusts the CG to the optimum location for big carry and run using a sophisticated series of cats' eye marbles and a spring from a ball point pen. 

So how does this new beast play?  Recently I was able to spend some time with it in comparison to my current gamer--the last driver that I demo'd and declared the Best Driver Ever.  I have it shafted with my new favorite shaft, the $107,000 Sixteen Candles shaft in a SR flex playing at 46".  At address, the club head is both compact for workability for the better player while being large to instill confidence in the higher handicappers.  I didn't find the user guide printed on the crown to be distracting at all at address, unless I looked at the club. 

During my backswing I did hear some electronic calculation noises reminiscent of "KITT" from the 80's classic television show "Knight Rider."  But on the downswing I did not hear any annoying movement from the marble track, just the feel of incredible speed and then the explosive impact.  I liked the sound of detonation at impact whilst using the Boom Pods, but an elderly gent I was paired with for my round literally shat himself after my first drive, so keep that in mind when playing with new people.  I have now played two rounds and hit it at the range twice, so I can honestly say that I feel this is the newest Best Driver Ever, and fits a variety of handicaps from Pro down to beginner. 

Yes, it is mighty expensive, but hey, you're worth it.  Right?  These are now on sale in the Pro Shop with the stock Bangzoo Animals shaft, but of course we can build them with any high end shaft in Japan.
Jesus... Am I guilty for writing like that in the past?  Or that's not me right cause I do understand Japanese....  ;D :P

T, you have always been the voice of reason in an otherwise unreasonable world.  I've never felt anything but educated and helped by anything you've told me or posts of yours that I've read...

For the record, I have no resentment of tsg...not making any kind of a statement or comment about those who do...I see all sides and am equally capable of laughing at, with or around all of them...

The culture of this site was summed up by a newcomer..."general smart assery" ...that's the main reason I like it....

Thanks Harry, you are always a pleasure to talk to as well.  I appreciate the kind words.
Title: Re: Grandista?
Post by: gocchin on July 12, 2015, 08:14:39 AM
That's a smart (ass) comment, Free.

And I'll see you next week. :) No smart (ass) comments between us.  :P
Title: Re: Grandista?
Post by: Duffer19 on July 12, 2015, 08:28:25 AM
I hope not T, it's the week after,  the 25th Saturday. 
Title: Re: Grandista?
Post by: freehb on July 12, 2015, 11:10:14 AM
That's a smart (ass) comment, Free.

And I'll see you next week. :) No smart (ass) comments between us.  :P

Never buddy, T brings out the gentleman in me...the rest of u bring out my smart assery....
Title: Re: Grandista?
Post by: gocchin on July 13, 2015, 02:52:37 AM
I hope not T, it's the week after,  the 25th Saturday.

Technically the 25th is next week.  ;D
Title: Re: Grandista?
Post by: tsupo67 on July 14, 2015, 03:58:40 AM
ahhhhhhhhhhh yes the yonex  ryo  nextage carbon crown one .. that driver head is unreal shape but dull .love hate. loved the way it payed, but the sound killed it for me.
stil lgot  a head sitting there waiting to  re ignite it

need a particualr shaft
that cud be great on the longy links once more..!!
Title: Re: Grandista?
Post by: nobwas on July 14, 2015, 07:51:59 AM
Yonex should pay Ishikawa to come back.  They had something great going back then.
Title: Re: Grandista?
Post by: tsupo67 on July 15, 2015, 04:16:06 AM
i think ryo shud just go back to them and forget about being a superstar that never  makes  a cut.

he looks washed up at 23...!

where as matsuyama looks ready to crack it  real BIG at any time..,
Title: Re: Grandista?
Post by: wmclarenf1 on July 30, 2015, 07:33:25 AM
Hit a friend's Grandista tonight and I stand corrected for this composite top head... The feel and sound compared to the old composite Cally C4 and Cleveland Comp is fantastic but compared to normal drivers about the same. The head cover is butt ugly though.

I was also surprised to see the bore size for the weight screws to be so big.

May just look for one just for the heck if it I think...
Title: Re: Grandista?
Post by: nobwas on July 30, 2015, 09:10:27 AM
how did the performance compare with your gamers?
Title: Re: Grandista?
Post by: wmclarenf1 on July 30, 2015, 09:19:22 AM
how did the performance compare with your gamers?

Hit into an indoor net and didn't have my drivers with me so can't say.  I was just pleasantly surprised at the feel given how bad the C4 and Cleveland comp sounded and felt.
Title: Re: Grandista?
Post by: nobwas on July 30, 2015, 05:24:25 PM
I have not tried this DAT55G version but the Version S in my opinion was as soft feeling at impact as my AF153.
Title: Re: Grandista?
Post by: wmclarenf1 on July 30, 2015, 08:04:03 PM
I have not tried this DAT55G version but the Version S in my opinion was as soft feeling at impact as my AF153.

Yup.  The S is a different metal.. can;t recall what... As for softness, I'm in a mind that soft and distance is in many cases inversely correlated and I'm not in to drivers for softness.
Title: Re: Grandista?
Post by: kl on January 18, 2016, 03:35:05 PM
Looks like that photo was taken at 30,000 feet above the Pacific, top that Chris!

Let me take a stab at creating some hype that will have everyone frothing at the mouth to spend $1500 on this piece.

Grandista is a newer golf gear company in Japan that puts an emphasis on the highest quality materials, ultimate feel and control, classic looks, and user prestige.  The new Grandista driver is a technological marvel, utilizing two "Super Impact Tubes™" on the sole that can be loaded with small explosive "Boom Pods™" (sold separately in the Pro Shop) that detonate at impact to create extreme distance along with the pleasing sounds of small arms fire.  The patent pending cup face design is double cold press forged from Dat 69 for a soft, explosive feel, then precision brazed by a man with tiny hands for the ultimate in consistency.  As you may have noticed, it has the unique feature of having the entire spec sheet printed right on the bottom, so the anal retentive golfer will know his club right down to the last meaningless detail.  The crown of the club incorporates a classy ion plating and an easy-to-read user guide to help remind the improving golfer to swing the club correctly. 

Recently I was able to meet with the President and design team when they took me out for a few hundred dollars worth of exotic sushi and drinks in exchange for promoting their products through the Pro Shop.  Their chief designer, Hideki "Dick" Gozinya-san explained to me the revolutionary center of gravity design they put into this new club.  He explained it in Japanese (which I don't understand 100%) but I believe he said that the club head senses your swing speed and club path and automatically adjusts the CG to the optimum location for big carry and run using a sophisticated series of cats' eye marbles and a spring from a ball point pen. 

So how does this new beast play?  Recently I was able to spend some time with it in comparison to my current gamer--the last driver that I demo'd and declared the Best Driver Ever.  I have it shafted with my new favorite shaft, the $107,000 Sixteen Candles shaft in a SR flex playing at 46".  At address, the club head is both compact for workability for the better player while being large to instill confidence in the higher handicappers.  I didn't find the user guide printed on the crown to be distracting at all at address, unless I looked at the club. 

During my backswing I did hear some electronic calculation noises reminiscent of "KITT" from the 80's classic television show "Knight Rider."  But on the downswing I did not hear any annoying movement from the marble track, just the feel of incredible speed and then the explosive impact.  I liked the sound of detonation at impact whilst using the Boom Pods, but an elderly gent I was paired with for my round literally shat himself after my first drive, so keep that in mind when playing with new people.  I have now played two rounds and hit it at the range twice, so I can honestly say that I feel this is the newest Best Driver Ever, and fits a variety of handicaps from Pro down to beginner. 

Yes, it is mighty expensive, but hey, you're worth it.  Right?  These are now on sale in the Pro Shop with the stock Bangzoo Animals shaft, but of course we can build them with any high end shaft in Japan.
Was just looking around the web to see if indeed Grandista only makes 460cc heads and came across this post again.  This is funny, funny stuff!  Matt, it makes me think there needs to be a hall of fame of JDMCH posts.
Title: Re: Grandista?
Post by: freehb on January 18, 2016, 07:04:41 PM
I've laughed until it hurt every time I've read that post!  Never gets old!
Title: Re: Grandista?
Post by: MBBG on January 18, 2016, 10:29:52 PM
I am sitting in my recliner trying to suppress my hysterical laughing trying not to wake the girls after reading that again.

Id be all for a hall of fame thread for sure.
Title: Re: Grandista?
Post by: DaleUK on January 19, 2016, 01:25:43 AM
This is the Best post ever!...

Title: Re: Grandista?
Post by: 95124hacker on January 19, 2016, 03:00:32 PM
Did not get the inside jokes when I first read it months ago but after re-reading it now, it's surely HOF material!

Might want to add: "Any of you donkeys that disagree with me... Well, just go to hell and you're gone, I don't need new customers anyway!"
Title: Re: Grandista?
Post by: ian-500 on January 19, 2016, 03:04:11 PM
I don't find it funny...
Title: Re: Grandista?
Post by: nobwas on April 01, 2016, 10:05:24 PM
Now that my 7D shaft has the Af-105 installed,  I paired up my Grandista Version S head with a BangVoo 787 shaft that I acquired recently.   The overall length of this build came out to be about 44.5"  .   the head weighs right at 200g .
In order to get a higher swing weight,  I even used a 40g grip .   Overall weight is about 316g which is on the lighter side for me.

Anyway,   I took out this shorty Grandista out for a spin this afternoon. 
Maaaaan,  how easy is this combo to hit straight?!!   Been using my 46.75" driver for a while now and this shorter driver feels so easy to hit!     Perhaps it's the shaft and head combo but I am not about to break up this combo! 
I think I found my season tournament driver.    Seemed to be getting good distance too.   Obviously not as long as the 7D /105 when pured but not far off.     Got me thinking more about cutting down the 7D shaft.   
I am really happy to have rediscovered a great great head and shaft combo!!   
It's so much fun tinkering with golf clubs!  Moving on to my next projects!

Title: Re: Grandista?
Post by: wmclarenf1 on April 02, 2016, 12:11:33 AM
Now that my 7D shaft has the Af-105 installed,  I paired up my Grandista Version S head with a BangVoo 787 shaft that I acquired recently.   The overall length of this build came out to be about 44.5"  .   the head weighs right at 200g .
In order to get a higher swing weight,  I even used a 40g grip .   Overall weight is about 316g which is on the lighter side for me.

Anyway,   I took out this shorty Grandista out for a spin this afternoon. 
Maaaaan,  how easy is this combo to hit straight?!!   Been using my 46.75" driver for a while now and this shorter driver feels so easy to hit!     Perhaps it's the shaft and head combo but I am not about to break up this combo! 
I think I found my season tournament driver.    Seemed to be getting good distance too.   Obviously not as long as the 7D /105 when pured but not far off.     Got me thinking more about cutting down the 7D shaft.   
I am really happy to have rediscovered a great great head and shaft combo!!   
It's so much fun tinkering with golf clubs!  Moving on to my next projects!

I've not hit the Bangvoo 787 but have the Bangvoo Premium and the MAVC80 and as far as retail boutique shafts go, one of the best.  The grandista as well I think is a great head.  I recently replaced the Basi Alpha with a Loop CL and think I've found another gear.  Not saying the CL categorically is better than the Basi Alpha but for my swing flaws, perhaps the Loop is a better combo with the Grandista.

Will be interested to head how you shortened 7D goes.  I play mine at 45 in my GPOM and its probablymy best all round combo.
Title: Re: Grandista?
Post by: mauvanilla on April 03, 2016, 03:46:18 AM
I am also a big fan of the Grandista Driver! not the longest but very pleasant to hit; I am playing on Tour AD MJ...

Also I am playing a Grandista 3 wood on an EVO II; which is also another nice club.

On the side; I compare the 3 wood with the Ryoma (on a FW80) and this is much longer but the feel not as nice...

ANyway: I hope that Grandista keeps going with new gear!
Title: Re: Grandista?
Post by: spoon on June 24, 2016, 01:57:38 AM
Looks like that photo was taken at 30,000 feet above the Pacific, top that Chris!

Let me take a stab at creating some hype that will have everyone frothing at the mouth to spend $1500 on this piece.

Grandista is a newer golf gear company in Japan that puts an emphasis on the highest quality materials, ultimate feel and control, classic looks, and user prestige.  The new Grandista driver is a technological marvel, utilizing two "Super Impact Tubes™" on the sole that can be loaded with small explosive "Boom Pods™" (sold separately in the Pro Shop) that detonate at impact to create extreme distance along with the pleasing sounds of small arms fire.  The patent pending cup face design is double cold press forged from Dat 69 for a soft, explosive feel, then precision brazed by a man with tiny hands for the ultimate in consistency.  As you may have noticed, it has the unique feature of having the entire spec sheet printed right on the bottom, so the anal retentive golfer will know his club right down to the last meaningless detail.  The crown of the club incorporates a classy ion plating and an easy-to-read user guide to help remind the improving golfer to swing the club correctly. 

Recently I was able to meet with the President and design team when they took me out for a few hundred dollars worth of exotic sushi and drinks in exchange for promoting their products through the Pro Shop.  Their chief designer, Hideki "Dick" Gozinya-san explained to me the revolutionary center of gravity design they put into this new club.  He explained it in Japanese (which I don't understand 100%) but I believe he said that the club head senses your swing speed and club path and automatically adjusts the CG to the optimum location for big carry and run using a sophisticated series of cats' eye marbles and a spring from a ball point pen. 

So how does this new beast play?  Recently I was able to spend some time with it in comparison to my current gamer--the last driver that I demo'd and declared the Best Driver Ever.  I have it shafted with my new favorite shaft, the $107,000 Sixteen Candles shaft in a SR flex playing at 46".  At address, the club head is both compact for workability for the better player while being large to instill confidence in the higher handicappers.  I didn't find the user guide printed on the crown to be distracting at all at address, unless I looked at the club. 

During my backswing I did hear some electronic calculation noises reminiscent of "KITT" from the 80's classic television show "Knight Rider."  But on the downswing I did not hear any annoying movement from the marble track, just the feel of incredible speed and then the explosive impact.  I liked the sound of detonation at impact whilst using the Boom Pods, but an elderly gent I was paired with for my round literally shat himself after my first drive, so keep that in mind when playing with new people.  I have now played two rounds and hit it at the range twice, so I can honestly say that I feel this is the newest Best Driver Ever, and fits a variety of handicaps from Pro down to beginner. 

Yes, it is mighty expensive, but hey, you're worth it.  Right?  These are now on sale in the Pro Shop with the stock Bangzoo Animals shaft, but of course we can build them with any high end shaft in Japan.

ami late to the party or what? just read this post. Squirts you have free booze and a round of golf whenever your in town.
man you made my day! just the right post to seal the deal, have a couple of grandista heads headed by way thanks to your post.
Title: Re: Grandista?
Post by: DaleUK on June 24, 2016, 02:19:52 AM
I love this Post too...
But on a serious note the Grandista ( which I almost SOLD) when set up right, with heavier head weights , just is the Bomb!....
Very long and it as a fantastic FEEL
Title: Re: Grandista?
Post by: spoon on June 24, 2016, 02:23:11 AM
I love this Post too...
But on a serious note the Grandista ( which I almost SOLD) when set up right, with heavier head weights , just is the Bomb!....
Very long and it as a fantastic FEEL

im glad to be gone with my zy-11. looking forward to this club!
I've already ordered a matching 16* Fw for this head!
Title: Re: Grandista?
Post by: DaleUK on June 24, 2016, 03:10:31 AM
I found that this worked better for me, shorter and with a Heavy SW.

It just seems to keep in the Air for ages, and as plenty of Roll out too.

Can't wait to try this with my ZY-7
Title: Re: Grandista?
Post by: mauvanilla on June 25, 2016, 03:29:05 AM
I am still in honeymoon both with the FW and the Driver... not the longest but one of the most pleasant to hit and very consistent!
Title: Re: Grandista?
Post by: spoon on June 25, 2016, 04:30:05 AM
I am still in honeymoon both with the FW and the Driver... not the longest but one of the most pleasant to hit and very consistent!

Had a go with the driver. Easy to launch but like to go right. Consistently right. Not a slice more like a push , doesn't happen with my other drivers. Need more time.
Title: Re: Grandista?
Post by: DaleUK on June 25, 2016, 10:55:21 AM
I am still in honeymoon both with the FW and the Driver... not the longest but one of the most pleasant to hit and very consistent!

Had a go with the driver. Easy to launch but like to go right. Consistently right. Not a slice more like a push , doesn't happen with my other drivers. Need more time.

Maybe alter the 2 weights?
Title: Re: Grandista?
Post by: spoon on June 25, 2016, 08:55:16 PM
I am still in honeymoon both with the FW and the Driver... not the longest but one of the most pleasant to hit and very consistent!

Had a go with the driver. Easy to launch but like to go right. Consistently right. Not a slice more like a push , doesn't happen with my other drivers. Need more time.

Maybe alter the 2 weights?

How do I do that? Haven't really checked out the weight ports. Do I need special tools?
Using my TM driver for sun money game
Title: Re: Grandista?
Post by: nobwas on June 25, 2016, 11:15:41 PM
If you have a TM or Titleist wrench,  you can loosen and remove the weights.
The weight of the screw is engraved on the screw head.

Be careful not to tighten the screw too much as the sound at impact will be very loud and high pitched.
Title: Re: Grandista?
Post by: LudaCliff on June 26, 2016, 01:27:36 AM
Be careful not to tighten the screw too much as the sound at impact will be very loud and high pitched.

Nob-san, does this also apply for the screw on the fairway?
Title: Re: Grandista?
Post by: DaleUK on June 26, 2016, 04:14:40 AM
Be careful not to tighten the screw too much as the sound at impact will be very loud and high pitched.

Nob-san, does this also apply for the screw on the fairway?


Yes, I believe it's the Same weight/thread
Title: Re: Grandista?
Post by: spoon on June 26, 2016, 09:43:44 PM
i will give the grandista another go over the week, if i can make it go less right i think I've found my driver. this thing has me scratching my head!
Title: Re: Grandista?
Post by: wmclarenf1 on June 26, 2016, 09:53:32 PM
C, a few suggestions :

1.  Switch the weights around if the toe weight is heavier.
2.  Not sure if you're a spine guy but try reinstalling your shaft 180* to what it is now.  If now logo up, go logo down... Assuming spine is right.
3.  Not sure if you ordered an open face but regardless, just aim face square to target at address and place ball maybe 1/2 ball to the left at address.  Not a t388 total swing change thing so no fret.
Title: Re: Grandista?
Post by: spoon on June 26, 2016, 10:04:34 PM
C, a few suggestions :

1.  Switch the weights around if the toe weight is heavier.
2.  Not sure if you're a spine guy but try reinstalling your shaft 180* to what it is now.  If now logo up, go logo down... Assuming spine is right.
3.  Not sure if you ordered an open face but regardless, just aim face square to target at address and place ball maybe 1/2 ball to the left at address.  Not a t388 total swing change thing so no fret.

1.  Switch the weights around if the toe weight is heavier.

will definitely give this a try and check weights on the head

2.  Not sure if you're a spine guy but try reinstalling your shaft 180* to what it is now.  If now logo up, go logo down... Assuming spine is right.

i am not really a spine guy, will this truly play a role? wow opens a pandoras box of possibilities lol

3.  Not sure if you ordered an open face but regardless, just aim face square to target at address and place ball maybe 1/2 ball to the left at address.  Not a t388 total swing change thing so no fret.

don't think its an open face looks pretty square to me , my swing works for all my drivers except for this one, my default swing is a baby fade but lately with my latest swing change its a baby draw, this one just wants to push left no matter where i aim. not a fan of changing swing for the club.

but id like to think its the weights and the EVO2 shaft i have in it. hmm
Title: Re: Grandista?
Post by: wmclarenf1 on June 26, 2016, 11:01:34 PM
Definitely don't believe in changing swing for any club.  Don't buy into all that level blow for this, but up for that, go down on her....   :-)

Just suggesting a very slight ball placement change if 1/2 ball left and teed up a bit higher.... SAME swing.

Mark of a good club for your swing is consistency.  And although you are pushing, at least that is consistent.  I think the placement thing should help rectify that.
Title: Re: Grandista?
Post by: spoon on June 26, 2016, 11:25:38 PM
Definitely don't believe in changing swing for any club.  Don't buy into all that level blow for this, but up for that, go down on her....   :-)

Just suggesting a very slight ball placement change if 1/2 ball left and teed up a bit higher.... SAME swing.

Mark of a good club for your swing is consistency.  And although you are pushing, at least that is consistent.  I think the placement thing should help rectify that.

Thanks will do the weight thing. Looking forward if it doesn't work will get the proceed.
Title: Re: Grandista?
Post by: spoon on June 28, 2016, 09:51:32 PM
off to the chopping block she is. love the feel but not how it leaks right.
was not able to do the weight thing or the shaft change so i guess il never know.

one thing for sure is i like the head, the feel and even the tacky look. grandista 4w on the way

Title: Re: Grandista?
Post by: nobwas on June 28, 2016, 10:20:56 PM
Be careful not to tighten the screw too much as the sound at impact will be very loud and high pitched.

Nob-san, does this also apply for the screw on the fairway?

Sorry for the late response.

Yes absolutely.   But your 3W has a 10g weight which seemed to mute the sound somewhat to begin with.
Nevertheless,  slightly loosened screw will mute the sound further.
Title: Re: Grandista?
Post by: Duffer19 on June 28, 2016, 11:14:42 PM
off to the chopping block she is. love the feel but not how it leaks right.
was not able to do the weight thing or the shaft change so i guess il never know.

one thing for sure is i like the head, the feel and even the tacky look. grandista 4w on the way

Get yourself a M1 or M2 and start hitting more fairway C.  For a cheaper 4W, got myself a last season XXIO with stock shaft from Rak and its great.
Title: Re: Grandista?
Post by: spoon on June 28, 2016, 11:17:50 PM
off to the chopping block she is. love the feel but not how it leaks right.
was not able to do the weight thing or the shaft change so i guess il never know.

one thing for sure is i like the head, the feel and even the tacky look. grandista 4w on the way

Get yourself a M1 or M2 and start hitting more fairway C.  For a cheaper 4W, got myself a last season XXIO with stock shaft from Rak and its great.

I'm actually gaming a Tp burner 2.0 with DJ6. this is my default fairway finder